Rainer Heilke wrote: >Mark Martin wrote: > > >>[cc'ing sysadmin-discuss] >> >>[context setting -- my original email proposal that started the thread >>on smf-discuss. my reply follows] >>Gang, >> >>I believe there's minimal consensus that start/stop as an alias for >>enable -t does have some value, if only for historical connotations. >>After re-reading the discussions here many times, I believe here's how >>I'd like to proceed. I'm going to assume that this is the correct >>approach unless someone tells me I will get veto'ed at RTI time. >> >>(continuing the list thinking meme) >>I will create a new svcadm start command which will an alias for enable -st >>I will create a new svcadm stop command which will be an alias for >>disable -st >>start -r will be available, but not the default >>start will report non-started (or enabled) dependent services that >>prevent it from continuing (unless the -r option is specified). >> >> > >Please see my other emails (including the one sent just before this >email). I (personally) see "start" merely being an alias to "enable -st" >to be of little or no value. It buys us nothing. :-( > >
To add to Rainer's point, something that I see missing from "enable -st" is the ability to start without all of the dependencies already being "online". To pick out a service, I'm going to choose inetd. Its dependencies are listed as: # svcs -d network/inetd disabled May_24 svc:/network/inetd-upgrade:default online May_24 svc:/network/loopback:default online May_24 svc:/milestone/network:default online May_24 svc:/system/filesystem/local:default online May_24 svc:/network/rpc/bind:default online May_24 svc:/milestone/name-services:default online May_24 svc:/milestone/sysconfig:default ...this implies that inetd won't start if NIS hasn't started (nis/client is required for name-services.) This prevents me from starting up and allowing ftp/telnet - not so useful - to accounts that are present in /etc/passwd. So, if my box boots, runs into issues and can't initialise itself as a NIC client (when so configured), other things fail and cannot be started when it is likely that I would find it useful for them to be active/available, even if they're in a degraded mode of service. Now because SMF isn't going to allow me to start inetd (due to nis/client being absent), I'm forced to either start inetd manually or run the start method for network/inetd myself. Darren
