On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Nicolas Williams wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 03:19:55PM -0400, Kyle McDonald wrote:
> > Which is great for new things being developed *in* solaris.
> >
> > I was discussing this from the view point of an admin building or
> > installing some outside software package that doesn't have a solaris SMF
> > manifest already created for his/fer use.
> >
> > There's a decision to make there. It's not always cut and dry.
>
> How is it not?

Because some of us manage non-Solaris systems, and because we don't
_maintain_ the package involved, and because we're don't manage one box.


> I've written a manifest for rsync, and it was real easy and it added
> real value.  I've even created services entirely via svccfg -- that's
> even easier than editing XML (admittedly, not terribly fun unless you
> have good XML tools at hand, or at least VIM), and you can still get XML
> back for backup and distribution purposes, by exporting the service
> you've created through svccfg.  So there's multiple ways to do this (a
> la Perl!) -- pick the one you like best.

Hand-editing XML is a non-starter.
Using a specific fancy editor is a non-starter.
Manually modifying the configuration of a live machine in order to extract
something I can distribute to the rest of the facility, is a non-starter.

Got any other approaches in mind?

>  In this thread I
> proposed something, then withdrew it; it wasn't worth the trouble (I
> don't work on SunSSH for a living), even though I believe the proposal
> was fine.

I think this thread has gone far afield from your original proposal.
I think we reached, or at least approached, a consensus on how to acheive
what you proposed without making life worse for those of us who have
existing sshd_config files.  IMHO you should not let the digression
prevent you from pursuing the original proposal.

-- Jeff


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