James Carlson wrote:
> I'm no fan of the "must dial 1 first" school of interface design, but
> I'm not sure that having failure into offline mode occur in two
> different orders (reverse order if done by administrative action,
> forward order if done by actual service failure) is a good thing.

Yeah, but... they *are* two different cases.

One is an orderly shutdown.

The other is recovery from a failure.

Nicolas Williams wrote:
> "Never" is a strong word :)

Yes, but it makes things so much simpler :-)

>> > (I suppose that that rule must be violated when a service dies, when you 
> 
> Exactly.
> 
>> > have no choice but to shut down dependents after the dependency, but I 
>> > would say that it should never be violated in non-failure cases.)
> 
> Well, no, SMF shouldn't stop dependents just because a dependency died. [...]

You're right, I oversimplified the failure case.

However, we're not talking about the failure case here - we're talking 
about an orderly shutdown due to administrative action.


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