Oh this same topic, do you guys have any future plans to incorporate
MMS capabilities into your libraries?

On Aug 29, 1:41 am, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MMSis a whole different ballgame.  It uses has a totally different
> means of sending data (usually via GPRS or 3G) and its internal format
> is somewhat like an e-mail (attachments and that sort).  EMS is really
> just a specifically encoded binary SMS sent over specific src and
> destination ports.
>
> Generating a bytestream on a server to send to a phone is possible but
> I'm not sure about how practical it is.  Since a binary SMS has a max
> of 140 bytes/part (less actually due to the concat and port UDH
> information), a 1K image will take around 8 binary SMS messages.
> Since SMS is not a guaranteed thing, you have to hope that all 8 get
> to the phone before you can even try to reconstruct the image data.
>
> Other issues you will have is the fact that a midlet has limitations
> as to what port you can listen to (not sure what they are off-hand but
> some documents from Sony Ericsson state them specifically and many of
> the well-known ports are on that list.  Not sure the limitations also
> apply to other phone companies).
>
> Also, a midlet can only be configured to listen to a specific Dst
> port, you cannot specify the source port. (Though I think the source
> port is supplied as part of the incoming message's address).  On a
> midlet sending an SMS, you definitely cannot specify the source port
> for that message.
>
> On Aug 29, 1:19 pm, "Advanced Micro Systems (AMS)"
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thats so nice of you jeff.
>
> > Can you please tell me a bit how EMS differs from anMMS? I know its way
> > beyond the scope of smslib but i am curious. For Service indecation i
> > require  a data connection later on to receive the contents, right? However
> > what i am envisioning is something be able to receive an image or ringtone
> > without the data connection.
>
> > So is it that simple to generate a byte stream for an image and send it
> > using a binary sms on a midlet client. On client side reconstruct the byte
> > stream into an image? I dont bother right now whether this solution is cost
> > effective or not i am only concerned about the logic and possibility of
> > technology.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Alam Sher
>
> > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > I'm using 16-bit by default which is what the older SMSLib uses.
> > > There is code in the PDUUtils to use 8-bit instead but I don't think
> > > you'd want that anyway for what you are planning.
>
> > > To support EMS style message you would have to create the appropriate
> > > binary content (which will depend on the format of the EMS message)
> > > and set the appropriate src and dest ports on a
> > > BinaryOutboundMessage.  The process would be similar to what is
> > > currently being done in the WAP SI messages of SMSLib, you can use
> > > that as a reference.
>
> > > On Aug 29, 12:31 pm, Thanasis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Yes, you can do this. If you just send the binary stuff and reconstruct
> > > it
> > > > at the other end in order to make it "look" like a ringtone, that would
> > > be
> > > > fine.
>
> > > > I don't remember whether Jeffrey is using 8bit or 16bit indexes in the
> > > > multipart messages. For 8bit, the largest message would be 255*140 
> > > > bytes.
> > > In
> > > > any case, don't send more than a few parts - you might face network
> > > delivery
> > > > problems (parts missing, etc).
>
> > > > 2008/8/29 Advanced Micro Systems (AMS) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > > > >  So in that case you mean an image or ringtone can't be sent using a
> > > > > simple sms. What if i send the byte stream of an image/ringtone in a
> > > binary
> > > > > sms and on the receiving side just (midlet) construct an 
> > > > > image/ringtone
> > > from
> > > > > it?
>
> > > > > What is the size limitation of a binary sms though?
>
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Alam Sher
>
> > > > >   On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Thanasis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > >>  Hi,
>
> > > > >> Sending images, ringtones and other EMS/MMStypes of messages is not
> > > > >> supported.
>
> > > > >> 2008/8/28 Alam Sher ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > > > >>> Hi!
>
> > > > >>> How to construct a binary sms to send a image or ringtone in it?
>
> > > > >>> Thanks,
> > > > >>> Alam Sher
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