Ray - don't flounce off – it's bad for morale, it sets a bad example, and we 
enjoy your contributions!
Derek

On 1 Jun 2012, at 07:21, Virginia Routh wrote:

> Why I like this group and have been a member for several years is that we 
> support each other, primarily about using Mac related equipment but in other 
> ways too.  I don't live in or near Brighton  so Ray's advice was not helpful 
> to me, but I am glad he posted it because it was in the interests of the 
> group.  Please don't leave the group, Ray.  I love your quirky postings and 
> it adds glamour to have one of the boys in blue among us.  Nobody objected 
> when you asked advice about cameras.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 1 Jun 2012, at 06:02, Ranulph Glanville <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I enjoy the occasional lightening of the Mac world to allow something else 
>> in. I can't really see why Ray's posting should cause such offence or 
>> annoyance.
>> 
>> I'm half a world away at the moment. So it's of no possible use to me (nor 
>> is it when I'm home, since I live in Portsmouth).
>> 
>> Come on, let's all smile and ease up a bit.
>> 
>> Ranulph
>> 
>> PS I'd rather we banned ipad and iphone stuff, really, since I don't use 
>> either. Also any mention of windows, android, and goodness knows what else. 
>> We should probably also ban me, since I don't live in Sussex. Yes, I think I 
>> should be banned. Please, can I be banned immediately?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 31 May 2012, at 22:15, Mark Schofield wrote:
>> 
>>> Everyday I could post an 'off-topic' email but I don't because this
>>> group is for Mac users in Sussex and posts are about using a Mac.
>>> 
>>> Please, let's keep that focus.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 31, 9:46 pm, Ray Packham <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> PROTESTS IN BRIGHTON OVER WEEKEND
>>>> 
>>>> One of the new Protest Liasion Officers, who will be clearly identifiable 
>>>> by orange tabards
>>>> 31 May 2012
>>>> With hundreds of community events marking the Jubilee weekend, some larger 
>>>> planned events and a sunny forecast likely to attract extra people to the 
>>>> city, police in Brighton and Hove are expecting a busy four days.
>>>> 
>>>> The vast majority of events are community organised and led, are expected 
>>>> to be safe and enjoyable, and require no special policing plans. However, 
>>>> police are also prepared for some bigger events and are keen to let people 
>>>> know what to expect.
>>>> 
>>>> On Friday and Saturday evenings, the Big Beach Boutique music event 
>>>> featuring Fatboy Slim is taking place at the American Express Community 
>>>> Stadium. Police have long-established relationships with both the event 
>>>> organisers and stadium managers, who are in charge of the planning and 
>>>> safety of the event.
>>>> 
>>>> With up to 20,000 people expected each night, some officers will be based 
>>>> at the stadium to assist with crowd management and as a contingency if any 
>>>> crimes occur. The organisers have released detailed travel advice, 
>>>> including alternative plans due to the partial closure of Falmer railway 
>>>> station, and police will also be assisting with traffic management between 
>>>> the city and the stadium.
>>>> 
>>>> Chief Superintendent Graham Bartlett, divisional commander for Brighton 
>>>> and Hove, said: "Whether you're heading to the Amex, attending one of the 
>>>> events in the city centre, live or work in Brighton and Hove, or are 
>>>> visiting for other reasons, I want to assure you're that we've thoroughly 
>>>> planned for this weekend.
>>>> 
>>>> "It will be busy, but I want to express that it will be very much business 
>>>> as usual. We are working closely with partner agencies and local 
>>>> businesses, particularly transport companies, to make sure everyone can 
>>>> have an enjoyable time in the city and make the most of everything it has 
>>>> to offer over this four-day weekend.
>>>> 
>>>> "You will see additional police officers, particularly in the city centre 
>>>> on Saturday and Monday, including roads policing officers to help minimise 
>>>> any delays and mounted officers who are highly visible in crowds. We will 
>>>> be assisted by some officers from other forces, allowing us to provide our 
>>>> usual emergency response across Sussex, with enough officers to meet the 
>>>> policing needs of the larger events in the city and to help to keep the 
>>>> many thousands of locals and additional bank holiday visitors safe.
>>>> 
>>>> "During some points over the weekend it is likely there will be temporary 
>>>> disruption, dependent on the exact activities during the planned events 
>>>> and the numbers who take part. In addition to explaining now what we know 
>>>> and expect, we will provide live information and advice over the weekend 
>>>> online atwww.sussex.police.uk, on our twitter account @sussex_police and 
>>>> shared via local media."
>>>> 
>>>> On the Saturday, nationalist-affiliated groups have indicated their 
>>>> intentions to meet up in Brighton city centre. Representatives for most of 
>>>> the groups involved have spoken to police and say they do not plan to hold 
>>>> specific marches or a rally, but to meet and socialise around the city. We 
>>>> support the rights of all groups to meet and express their views 
>>>> peacefully in the city but will deal with any criminality if it occurs.
>>>> 
>>>> On the same day, people supporting the UK Uncut movement have announced 
>>>> plans to hold a street party style gathering, possibly meeting around the 
>>>> Clock Tower from midday. Organisers of this event have also spoken to 
>>>> police liaison officers but not shared their exact plans. We anticipate 
>>>> peaceful and vocal activity highlighting their cause, although there may 
>>>> be some temporary disruption in the city centre.
>>>> 
>>>> On Monday, supporters of Smash EDO have announced plans to hold an event 
>>>> in Brighton. Although representatives have not spoken directly with 
>>>> police, they have shared plans online and in an open letter to the media. 
>>>> Their plans focus on a march starting from Barclays Bank in North Street 
>>>> at midday to Hove Town Hall to present a petition about their cause.
>>>> 
>>>> Based on the detail that has been made available publicly by Smash EDO, we 
>>>> are in a better position to police the event and help keep everyone safe, 
>>>> both those taking part and others in the city. We will seek to do this by 
>>>> providing a mounted escort for the march through the city - which is 
>>>> likely to be busy at this time - supplemented by officers in normal 
>>>> uniform and embedded Protest Liaison Officers, with roads policing 
>>>> officers assisting with any traffic issues.
>>>> 
>>>> Ch Supt Bartlett continued: "To understand their intentions, help us plan 
>>>> effectively to keep everyone safe and to help us provide the right level 
>>>> of policing response, we have updated how we engage with groups and 
>>>> individuals who take part in events like these, through dedicated protest 
>>>> liaison officers.
>>>> 
>>>> "Before events, these liaison officers try to identify and speak with 
>>>> organisers or representatives of groups involved. This is to have an open 
>>>> exchange of information about their plans and to help them understand the 
>>>> policing operation that will be put in place. I am pleased to say that 
>>>> most of the groups planning activity in the city centre over the weekend 
>>>> have been in contact, although some have not made exact plans or shared 
>>>> them with us. It is not too late for anyone who hasn't been in contact to 
>>>> do so.
>>>> 
>>>> "During events, these liaison officers will be embedded with those taking 
>>>> part in marches, protests or similar activity. They are clearly 
>>>> identifiable by their bright orange tabards, rather than the yellow ones 
>>>> worn by other officers. Their aims on the day are to continue this open 
>>>> dialogue with those involved, to understand if their plans change, update 
>>>> them on the policing plans for the event and explain any police action 
>>>> being taken. This supplements the information we already share publicly 
>>>> with residents, businesses and others in the city.
>>>> 
>>>> "Sussex Police welcomes and supports the right to free speech and always 
>>>> seeks to facilitate groups who want to express their views in the city in 
>>>> a peaceful way. Our new protest liaison approach will help us do exactly 
>>>> that. However, we also make it clear that crime, disorder or violence 
>>>> within or between groups will not be tolerated and if it does occur we are 
>>>> ready to provide a proportionate and effective response."
>>>> 
>>>> Whether you're taking part in an event or in the city for other reasons, 
>>>> you can get the latest updates from Sussex Police by:
>>>> 
>>>> Viewing our Live Log with photos and maps online 
>>>> athttp://www.sussex.police.uk/live
>>>> Following us on Twitter @sussex_police
>>>> Speaking to officers and staff on duty in the city
>>>> Checking for our updates via media outle
>>>> 
>>>> Ray Packham
>>>> HI-Tech Crime Unit
>>>> Sussex Police
>>>> Sussex House
>>>> Crowhurst Road
>>>> Hollingburry
>>>> BN1 8AF
>>>> 
>>>> [email protected]
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