Thats interesting Ta, I thought it was enabled, I enabled the trim app and 
found that it slowed my machine down (noticeably) ...

Regards Ray


On 31 Jan 2014, at 17:01, Sam - MacAmbulance <[email protected]> wrote:

> I thought trim was enabled for apple SSDs only?
> 
> Sam
> 
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> On 31 Jan 2014, at 16:56, Graham Perrin <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Thursday, 30 January 2014 22:54:33 UTC, Ray Packham wrote:
>> 
>> ...  I think the software is built into the SSD already ...
>> 
>> Also - of possible interest to Sam and others with a technical mind - please 
>> note that there's support for TRIM within the operating system. 
>> 
>> From HFS-related source code for the kernel 
>> 
>> /* 
>>  
>> ;________________________________________________________________________________
>>  
>>  ; 
>>  ; Routine:       hfs_unmap_free_extent 
>>  ; 
>>  ; Function:      Make note of a range of allocation blocks that should be 
>>  ;                unmapped (trimmed).  That is, the given range of blocks no 
>>  ;                longer have useful content, and the device can unmap the 
>>  ;                previous contents.  For example, a solid state disk may 
>> reuse 
>>  ;                the underlying storage for other blocks. 
>>  ; 
>>  ;                This routine is only supported for journaled volumes.  The 
>> extent 
>>  ;                being freed is passed to the journal code, and the extent 
>> will 
>>  ;                be unmapped after the current transaction is written to 
>> disk. 
>>  ; 
>>  ; Input Arguments: 
>>  ;    hfsmp            - The volume containing the allocation blocks. 
>>  ;    startingBlock    - The first allocation block of the extent being 
>> freed. 
>>  ;    numBlocks        - The number of allocation blocks of the extent being 
>> freed. 
>>  
>> ;________________________________________________________________________________
>>  
>>  */ 
>> 
>> First appearance in Apple open source: 
>> http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/xnu/xnu-2050.9.2/bsd/hfs/hfscommon/Misc/VolumeAllocation.c
>>  (Mac OS X 10.8.1) 
>> 
>> Most recent appearance: 
>> http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/xnu/xnu-2422.1.72/bsd/hfs/hfscommon/Misc/VolumeAllocation.c
>>  
>> 
>> Also, from the latter: 
>> 
>> /* 
>>  * Validation Routine to verify that the TRIM list maintained by the journal 
>>  * is in good shape relative to what we think the bitmap should have.  We 
>> should 
>>  * never encounter allocated blocks in the TRIM list, so if we ever 
>> encounter them, 
>>  * we panic.   
>>  */ 
>> 
>> ... 
>> 
>> /* 
>>  
>> ;________________________________________________________________________________
>>  
>>  ; 
>>  ; Routine:     hfs_track_unmap_blocks 
>>  ; 
>>  ; Function:    Make note of a range of allocation blocks that should be 
>>  ;              unmapped (trimmed).  That is, the given range of blocks no 
>>  ;              longer have useful content, and the device can unmap the 
>>  ;              previous contents.  For example, a solid state disk may 
>> reuse 
>>  ;              the underlying storage for other blocks. 
>>  ; 
>>  ;              This routine is only supported for journaled volumes.   
>>  ;  
>>  ;              *****NOTE*****:  
>>  ;              This function should *NOT* be used when the volume is fully  
>>  ;              mounted.  This function is intended to support a bitmap 
>> iteration 
>>  ;              at mount time to fully inform the SSD driver of the state of 
>> all blocks 
>>  ;              at mount time, and assumes that there is no 
>> allocation/deallocation 
>>  ;              interference during its iteration., 
>>  ; 
>>  ; Input Arguments: 
>>  ;    hfsmp           - The volume containing the allocation blocks. 
>>  ;    offset          - The first allocation block of the extent being 
>> freed. 
>>  ;    numBlocks       - The number of allocation blocks of the extent being 
>> freed. 
>>  ;    list            - The list of currently tracked trim ranges. 
>>  
>> ;________________________________________________________________________________
>>  
>>  */ 
>> 
>> ... and so on.
>> 
>> Side note
>> 
>> I stumbled across the relevant source code whilst seeking information about 
>> messages that are sent by the kernel in some situations. Within those 
>> messages, the following string: 
>> 
>> kernel[0]: hfs_unmap_free_ext: ignoring trim vol=
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