Hi 
Re getting Catalina onto my Mac Pro - I bought the Mac Pro from a company 
called Mac Pro about 6 years ago - it was a 2010 carcase and motherboard 
reflashed to be the equivalent of the trash can Mac Pro  (in performance 
but with the flexibility of the silver cased Mac Pro).  Recently I noticed 
that the company were selling Mac Pros running Catalina on eBay. I 
telephoned them to ask how they were achieving it and they offered to 
update my machine. They did it remotely with me doing some commands on the 
machine.  
Re Mac Pro or Mac Finder  - I have had good service and suport from them.

There is at least one web site describing how to Catalise other machines, I 
might see if I can update my early 2012 Macbook Pro using the method 
described on the web.  Basically you need to have another machine you can 
use to read the instructions on the web while doing things to the old 
machine.  

Good luck

On Thursday, 22 October 2020 at 23:26:11 UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:

> Hi Derek
>
> Looks good, thank you (but how did you get Catalina running?!)
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Jason
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> On 22 Oct 2020 at 16:24:32 BST, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I use a Logitech Quckcam Vision Pro camera with my 2009 ish Mac Pro using 
> Catalina. It has a Tessar lens and microphone. It plugs into the USB 
> socket 
> on the front of the Mac Pro
> It works well on Zoom, gives a better picture quallity than the camera 
> built into the Apple 27inch screen. I bought it over 10 years ago it was 
> about £70. 
>
>
> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Logitech+Quickcam+Vision+Pro+cameras&t=ffnt&atb=v120-1&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.macworld.com%2Fimages%2Fnews%2Fgraphics%2F134090-logitechquickcamvisionpro.jpg
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Derek
> On Thursday, 22 October 2020 at 15:36:12 UTC+1 Nicholas Holt wrote:
>
> > Hi Jason,
> > Just had a quick look on eBay and they’re several 2nd hand iSight 
> > cameras……..but maybe the lockdown locks should be even less in focus!
> > Nick
> >
> > On 22 Oct 2020, at 12:12, 'Jason Davies' via Sussex Mac User Group <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I'm using an old Mac Pro to work from (I do have a Macbook air with 
> camera 
> > but wifi is erratic and the machine is under-powered). It seems socially 
> > and politically impossible to continue without a webcam but I'm getting 
> > confusing info about whether webcams can be expected to work. Eg some 
> > logitech ones have software that refuses to run because the processor is 
> > too old (though it can handle anything I throw at it). I can't tell if 
> the 
> > software is *necessary* or just *useful*.
> >
> > Other sources say anything should work at a basic level.
> >
> > I've tried virtual cameras using my iPhone but Teams and Blackboard 
> > Collaborate don't recognise them (boo, this would be perfect).
> >
> > Is anyone using a (not expensive) webcam on a mac without a built-in 
> > camera (eg mac mini) who can say 'yep, this one works fine'. I honestly 
> > don't care about picture quality or even the mic. I'm running Mojave not 
> > Catalina (it won't run 10.15 at all). The smaller the better as there is 
> > not really anywhere on the desk for it (something on a 'stick' that has 
> a 
> > small camera would be perfect). I don't want one that sits on the top of 
> > the monitor either! (not fussy, am I...)
> >
> > (wish I'd kept the old FW iSight I had years ago now!)
> >
> > Ps because they provide me with the Macbook Air, work's position is that 
> > they have provided me with a camera so they're not buying another one, 
> > which I guess is fair enough but I'm not switching to a slow laptop or 
> > spending a fortune just so they can inspect my lack of haircut...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jason
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