I’ve got to be blunt, it sucks!

At least being able to filter results to only show “web form password” or
just the iCloud Keychain would help. All you seem to be able to do is sort
the columns to group web form passwords together.

Lots of results come up as search is looking through all your keychains so
it will be showing iCloud and your local system.

One thing I noticed is if you do a search for “(Passwords not saved)” you
will turn up a lot of potentially useless entries that you may want to
delete.

On my computer searching for a website address isn’t too horrendous.  But
there’s no flexibility for sorting or organising like you would have in
other password managers.

I suppose a way of looking at this is that keychain isn’t a “password
manager” per se. It’s where your systems save credentials and all sorts of
other important security related items you really don’t want to mess with.
Apple are kind enough to have a front end that can be used a last
resort/troubleshooting tool without needing to resort to terminal commands.



On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 12:42, mac98aop <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for the detailed reply, Toby. Helpful stuff.
>
> I guess my main question is how to navigate Keychain Access.app, when I
> need to find a password for use elsewhere (ie, when 'sync' doesn't work or
> apply)
>
> When I search for a password relating to a website, app or username, I get
> a long list of all potential results and it's quite tricky to know which
> one relates to what I actually need. 1Password makes it a little easier to
> identify logins, but I'm keen to just have everything within iCloud
> Keychain going forward.
>
> Any tips on quickly finding a login and password and making sense of
> what's what in the list you're given once you've searched?
>
> Thanks again
>
> On Wednesday, 10 March 2021 at 17:20:19 UTC Toby Leighton wrote:
>
>> Keychain has been around as long as OSX has, hence its "functional" UI.
>> iCloud never used to be in the mix but now it is.  Keychain isn't just for
>> your personal generated & stored passwords but for system use, and you can
>> also have multiple keychains etc.
>>
>> Rather than rambling about keychain, to address your question, no I
>> wouldn't start renaming things in there, but in a similar way that
>> 1password recommends you set up websites by capturing the login rather than
>> manually creating it I'd let keychain do its thing its way
>>
>> If you do want a safe way to experiment with renaming though, you could
>> create a new keychain and copy+paste items between them, but I don't think
>> anything other than the icloud keychain will be available to your other
>> devices.
>>
>> I started using 1Password in earnest many years ago whereas I used to use
>> keychain before for generating and saving random different passwords, This
>> wasn't only for sync, I used windows just as much as macs, and android just
>> as much as iphone 1Password was the thing for me at the time.
>>
>> The password management landscape is very different now, and I'm finding
>> I only rely on 1Password for legacy stuff, as there are so many (free)
>> options out there that are competitive.  I'm also considering migrating
>> away from it
>>
>> Toby
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 at 16:02, mac98aop <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks
>>>
>>> I'm migrating from 1Password to iCloud Keychain, and only real thing is
>>> the UI, which for an Apple interface is interesting. I'm just never quite
>>> sure which item in the listing actually contains the login password, as
>>> when I search for say 'iCloud' dozens of entries pop up.
>>>
>>> Do I need to start properly naming them to more accurately find them?!
>>>
>>> Any tips?!
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
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