It can also depend on the type of car. I mean a headlight for my car is over $500 if it gets busted. I know this b/c I hit an owl one night driving home and it busted out the headlight and the insurance paid for it. I still had to call the cops though and fill out an accident report. Hell, when my 93 cavalier got hit a few years ago the damage estimate was over $2000 and I was barely hit. The insurance company had they paid would have totaled the car. Unfortunately in that case though, I tried swapping info with the guy b/c he didn't want the cops involved, then he turned around and went to the cops and said I left the scene. They filled out a report, but couldn't determine who was at fault (even though he's the one that pulled out and hit me) Either way the damage was more than what the car was valued at. Can you imagine having to replace a fender and a headlight on a BMW or something like that. I could see it easily becoming over $1,000. And the article also didn't mention what the parents thoughts were on paying for the damage or swapping insurance info with the guy. For all we know, he may have tried that.
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Wasn't this guy in FL?  FL state law gives a provision for minor accidents (which this was) to be settled by swapping insurance information.  He could have filed on his insurance under FL law and they would have had to honor it.  I think the article was mistaken.  In some cities in FL the cops won't even come unless the damage meets a certain threshold.  I don't buy that there was over $1,000 worth of damage.  A friend of mine hit a guy on a bike earlier this year, and did significant damage to the fender of the car.  His repair bill was only $600 and that was including a new windshield.
 
Charles Mims
 
 


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I agree, but that also seems to back up my point about it being the insurance laws themselves that were at fault there. Because the way the law was written, it had to be the first choice. Because had the parents not paid to fix it, and the guy hadn't called....then he would have had to pay for the car himself because the insurance company wouldn't have......because he didn't call the cops.
 
My point exactly, I agree with you.....but I think the insurance law that made him call was the culprit. Because according to the article had he not, they wouldn't have paid. I think myself there should be some wiggle room in there where it could have been worked out and then if the parents didn't pay he could have still filed on  his insurance. But the way the law was, according to the article...the didn't have that option.
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No one is really saying that action shouldn't be taken.  What is really being said is that the action was unproportionate.  It could have been handled, insurance not withstanding, by the adults in the instance talking it out.  That's the way people *used* to handle things.  There is no reason why people can't still handle things that way.  Getting cops and lawyers and insurance companies involved should always be a last resort, yet today it's the first option.
 
Frankly I think there is enough real crime going on that it is ridiculous to waste a cops time by having him present to write a citation to a kid that misjudged his jump. Maybe he could be at the red light stopping the adult fools who come through the red lights.
 
Charles Mims
 
 


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Another thing wrong with society is people don't want to take responsibility for their own actions or the actions of their children.
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In a message dated 11/5/2003 11:00:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

It's a good thing I'm not a kid today, because there is no way in the world I'd wear a helmet to ride a freaking bicycle.  And I'd probably jump a few sand hills.  God knows I jumped over my share of picnic tables on one.  I've even hit a car or two on accident.  No one made a federal crime out of it.  If punishment was deserved my family took care of it.  There was no need to bring the cops into it.
 
That's partly what is wrong with society these days.  Everyone wants to either call the cops or sue over things that really are unimportant.


*applause*


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