I take this to mean my method of copying the contents of the message from
Outlook Express's Properties>Details>Message Source window into a new
message probably isn't helping you any, as I believe this does in fact
"de-fang" the message?

Dave Strzemienski
Centrivity Network Operations

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bonno Bloksma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 9:43 AM
Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] A few notes...


> On Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 4:42:26 AM, Bonno wrote:
>
> BB> Hi,
>
> BB> [.....]
> >>   The spam@ address is ONLY for submitting spam that you wish to have
> >>   filtered.
>
> BB> About that.... I have been sending the occasional spam mails as an
> BB> attachment, that way you have the full message including any headers.
Is
> BB> that indeed the preffered way?
>
> Yes, if it's easy for you to do. However the only data we will collect
> from the headers in a submission to spam@ are:
>
> * Malformed headers that we can identify.
> * IP data that we can verify automatically.
>
> Simply forwarding the spam will also work nicely though...
>
> In most cases we code for text, uri, and structures in the message
> content so it is usually fine to simply forward spam to the spam@
> address. If you use TheBat! or another email client that supports
> redirect then use that - because redirect also preserves the header
> information and content. Avoid any forwarding process that rewrites
> and/or "defangs" the message in any way.
>
> Submissions to spam _should_ be in their original condition, but that
> is not strictly necessary.
>
> The reason for this is that submissions to spam@ are open and
> therefore subject to abuse so our policies for processing these
> messages are geared toward avoiding abuse and preventing false
> positives. Some of these guidelines are:
>
> * spam@ submissions are anonymous - we do not respond to notes of any
> kind that claim to be from anyone.
>
> * If we have any doubt about a spam@ submission we skip it.
>
> * We strongly consider that any submission to spam@ may be forged.
> This is also true of false@ submissions which must be verified by the
> license id and the sender's address plus (occasionally) the source IP.
>
> * If we cannot code a spam@ submission for everyone then we will not
> code it. That means, if we suspect the possibility of a false positive
> then we will ignore the submission. Our goal is for the core rulebase
> to tag messages that all of our users will agree are unwanted (spam).
>
> --- If you have a chronic spam issue with a particular submission and
> you suspect we have ignored it for some reason then please contact us
> about it at our support@ address and request a local black rule.
> Remember that our support@ address is filtered though - so if you send
> us spam there we will not get the message.
>
> * If the message is garbled or modified in any way we may ignore it
> unless we can explain the process and decipher the content.
>
> I hope this helps clear things up.
>
> For reference, spamtrap data follows an entirely different set of
> rules because the process is automated and more tightly controlled.
> For information on submitting spamtrap data please contact us off list
> at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks!
>
> _M
>
>
>
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