Here’s what we have found so far

 

Yahoo is grey listing but instead of running a centralized GL database each of their servers has it’s own

 

A lookup for their MX shows

 

Mx1.mail.yahoo.com

Mx2.mail.yahoo.com

Mx3.mail.yahoo.com

 

So your server grabs one of these and does a lookup which returns a round robin response for mx1.mail.yahoo.com of

 

4.79.181.14

4.79.181.15

4.79.181.168

67.28.113.71

67.28.113.73

67.28.113.19

 

Each of which has a TTL of 1800

 

So your server tries one of these and gets deferred to try again.  It waits and tries again – but depending on your retry frequency TTL may have expired

 

And so the process starts over with a new MX1.mail.yahoo.com server

 

 

Not sure if this is all correct but it is the best we can figure out as of yet

 

 

 


From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:11 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems

 

Now that I've looked into it further, yes! Our E-mails to Yahoo have also been bouncing back as undeliverable with the same error.

 

I have sent out a few test messages and will report back when I have some more info.

 

 

Michael Stein
Computer House

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Tech Support

Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM

Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems

 

Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message has been deferred L

 

 


From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Computer House Support
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems

 

I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed description of the bounce error.  You may find that it is a DNS or spam blacklist issue.  www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource.

 

 

Michael Stein
Computer House

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Tech Support

Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM

Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems

 

I’m sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better place to find truly technical mail server folks J

 

 

We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now

these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks

telnet on port 25 is usually getting this

451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50

keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail

any one else having this issue

 

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