I think he was asking about the log rotate script that also FTPs a copy up
to sniffer. Do we still need to FTP a log to Sniffer?

John T


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> Pete McNeil
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:28 PM
> To: Message Sniffer Community
> Subject: [sniffer] Re: Updates to log rotation scripts
> 
> Hello tfox,
> 
> Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 10:23:46 PM, you wrote:
> 
> > What updates/file name changes would be necessary for the log rotation
> > scripts?
> 
> It is possible to generate old style log files from the new version if you
wish. Your
> current scripts can be used as-is in that case.
> 
> Hopefully you will be able to make the switch to the new XML based logs.
> 
> Both log types can be rotated daily by the new engine. Specifically,
today's date can be
> prepended to the log file names.
> 
> > How can we monitor the status of SNF in real time, via the XML pages?
> 
> The first answer is that the new engine produces a number of status
reports - every
> second, every minute, or every hour.
> 
> These status reports and logs, though formatted as XML, have been designed
to be
> relatively easy to see in a simple text editor. It does take a little bit
of getting used to -
> but not too much.
> 
> > Is there such a thing as an XML reader?
> 
> Yep. Your web browser. Just about every web browser can read and translate
XML
> data these days. The trick is -- translate how?
> 
> You may want to use an XSLT utility, or more likely the XSLT capabilities
in your web
> server environment or even in your web browser alone.
> 
> For example, you could take one of the status files, copy it to a new
file. Add a few
> lines of text - specifically to add a style-sheet definition and document
type so that the
> XML is "complete". Then you should be able to open the resulting file in
your favorite
> browser.
> (You will have to create an XSL file (style sheet) to translate the XML
file into what you
> want to see.)
> 
> [[ This is the approach I used to create the "rate chart" shown in
> nowSimplePrescale.png, then I moved the whole thing to our web server to
make it
> more automatic. ]]
> 
> Another way you might go is to import the XML from the log or status
report into a
> database. (Here again you may want/need to prepend a line or two of text
to make
> the XML completely compatible with your
> environment)
> 
> Then you would be able to extract reports from your database in "the usual
way".
> 
> We're hopeful that folks who are savvy about XML and XSL will create and
share
> useful translations and tools for SNF users. We look forward to supporting
that effort.
> 
> Internally we've done a few quick things to watch the telemetry we get
from SNF
> nodes and our own servers. The approach we've taken is to use the inherent
XSLT
> capabilities of our web/jsp servers and the basic capabilities in IE and
Firefox.
> 
> Attached are some screen shots of live data I am looking at right now.
> This telemetry comes from one of our spamtrap pre-filters.
> 
> nowSimplePrescale.png uses a simple XSL file that took me about 20 minutes
to throw
> together while thumbing through a text book.
> 
> nowNodeDashbaord.png took a bit more work and leverages a flash based live
gauge
> tool that periodically pulls xml data from our internal servers (so it's
animated). The
> flash gadget came from here:
> 
> http://www.maani.us/gauge/
> 
> We will also be creating some monitoring tools and services on our web
site to take
> advantage of the live data provided by the new SNF engine and some of our
new
> back-end tools.
> 
> If anyone creates any useful XSL, tools, etc then please let us know and
we will be
> happy to post them on our site and create appropriate reciprocal links.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> _M
> 
> --
> Pete McNeil
> Chief Scientist,
> Arm Research Labs, LLC.



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