SPF does help, and we've used it for about three years here, but only when the 
domain being forged has an SPF policy.  So, it's most useful when the recipient 
domain is being forged as the sender as well.

We've seen some joe job attacks with bounces around 25k to a single address.  
We filtered about 85% of those, but that still meant the customer received a 
bit under 4k.   We've since tweaked our NULL sender filter to catch more, but 
at the risk of catching some read receipts, automated replies, etc.  With 
volumes this high, even 99% filtering results in a huge hit (250 bounces) from 
the customer's perspective.  We're working to get to the 99.9% level consistent 
with the rest of our filtering.

Darin.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: E. H. (Eric) Fletcher 
To: Message Sniffer Community 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:56 PM
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Backscatter Spam


Matt:

We also found SPF records did the trick on the high volume returns to several 
domains especially from some of the appliances.  

Eric
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mxuptime.com 
  To: Message Sniffer Community 
  Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 8:50 PM
  Subject: [sniffer] Re: Backscatter Spam


  Intersting idea but the BATV appears to be something that you would need to 
run on the MTA level (i.e the MailServer would need to support the 
functionality) because it rewrites the return address on outgoing emails.

   

  On a side note, I have noticed a significant drop in backscatter when SPF is 
implemented for the particular domain. Most of the backscatter appears to come 
from valid antispam appliances like the Barracuda boxes which would normally 
use SPF. These devices perform the SPF test during the SMTP connection and 
rejects it immediately as opposed to bouncing the message back. So the SPF does 
help.

   

  -Matt

   

  From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Matthew J. Grim
  Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 1:25 AM
  To: Message Sniffer Community
  Subject: [sniffer] Re: Backscatter Spam

   

  As an aside, Mdaemon has an excellent backscatter prevention system.

  They appear to be using BATV, an internet draft at the moment.

  Matt in Tampa

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