Agreed. If the service is using RPC style, it should not require a particular namespacing of the parameters. On the other hand, if it is using Document style, then the schema will indicate what the namespace requirements are.

Anne

At 10:06 AM 4/12/2004, you wrote:
Anne,

Thanks for the correction.

Section 3.5 of WSDL 1.1 (http://www.w3.org/TR/wsdl.html#_soap:body) specifies "reader makes right" versus "writer makes right" for certain scenarios. Given, as you have pointed out, that rpc requires the wrapper that will not be specified in the schema even when concrete types are forced (using literal), I do not see how the service described below can require a particular namespacing of the parameters (writer makes right) unless the operation binding is doc/lit. What am I missing?

Scott Nichol

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Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: Requestparameters


Actually, the elementFormDefault attribute doesn't apply to RPC-style messages, because you don't have a schema that defines either the wrapper element (the method name) or the parameter elements. These elements are automatically generated by the SOAP runtime. The SOAP 1.1 specification doesn't specify what namespace the parameter elements should belong to.


Per the WS-I Basic Profile (which defines RPC/Literal, but not RPC/Encoded), the parameter elements should be in no namespace. See:

http://www.ws-i.org/Profiles/Basic/2003-08/BasicProfile-1.0a.html#refinement35268960


5.6.20 Namespace for Part Accessors
For rpc-literal SOAP messages, WSDL 1.1 is not clear what namespace, if any, the accessor elements for parameters and return value are a part of. Different implementations make different choices, leading to interoperability problems.


R2735 A MESSAGE described with an rpc-literal binding MUST place the part accessor elements for parameters and return value in no namespace.

Settling on one alternative is crucial to achieving interoperability. The Profile places the part accessor elements in no namespace as doing so is simple, covers all cases, and does not lead to logical inconsistency.


At 02:16 PM 4/9/2004, you wrote:


This is an aspect of XML that was poorly defined until the XML Schema spec. That spec defines an attribute named 'elementFormDefault', which can have values 'qualified' and 'unqualified'. With a value of 'unqualified', the XML looks like the Apache SOAP payload you show below. That the MS SOAP service you are working with wants namespaces for each element implies that the WSDL for the service contains a schema that specifies the 'qualified' form. (Note: elementFormDefault is commonly used to set global behavior, i.e. behavior for all complexTypes in a schema. I think there is also an elementForm attribute that affects behavior for a single complexType.)

In the current nightly build of Apache SOAP, the SOAPContext class has a method

public void setQualifyElements(boolean qualifyElements)

that allows you to specify whether elements should be qualified. If you use that code base and call this method with a parameter of true, you should be the behavior you desire.

      ...
      call.setSOAPMappingRegistry(Smr);
      call.getContext().setQualifyElements(true);
      ...

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  From: "jer ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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  Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 1:19 PM
  Subject: Requestparameters


Hello !


Could someone please explain to me the following ? Please !!!

  All the request examples from Apache SOAP use different namespaces for the
  first subelement
  to the SOAP body and the parameter elements.

  My SOAP request sent to a MS SOAP server failes due to the fact that SOAP
  parameters having another
  namespace then the first SOAPbody subelement. Renaming the parameters with
  the prefix "ns1:"
  makes the requests work so I know thats where the problem is.

According to the sample requests on the w3c forum
( see. http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/REC-soap12-part0-20030624/#L1165 ) the same
namespace is used
for all SOAP parameter elements in the same body subelement so from my point
of view it looks
like Apache SOAP is making non standard requests !?!??


  I have even seen some samples of requests from Axis that shows the same
  behavior ?!?

  See below how the "Login" element doesn't use the qualified name
  "ns1:Login"....

  My request from Apache SOAP
  ---------------------------

  POST http://www.yaddayadday.com/webservices/customer/customer.asmx HTTP/1.0
  Host: www.yaddayadday.com:80
  Content-Type: text/xml; charset=utf-8
  Content-Length: 554
  SOAPAction:
  "http://www.yaddayadday.com/webservices/customer/RequestProductList";

  <?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?>
  <SOAP-ENV:Envelope
  xmlns:SOAP-ENV="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/";
  xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";
  xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema";>
    <SOAP-ENV:Body>
      <ns1:RequestProductList
  xmlns:ns1="http://www.yaddayadday.com/webservices/customer";
  SOAP-ENV:encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/";>
         <Login xsi:type="xsd:string">USERID</Login>
         <Password xsi:type="xsd:string">PASSWORD</Password>
      </ns1:RequestProductList>
  </SOAP-ENV:Body>
  </SOAP-ENV:Envelope>


What it should look like ( According to the MS server and me...) -----------------------------------------------------------------

  POST http://www.yaddayadday.com/webservices/customer/customer.asmx HTTP/1.0
  Host: www.yaddayadday.com:80
  Content-Type: text/xml; charset=utf-8
  Content-Length: 554
  SOAPAction:
  "http://www.yaddayadday.com/webservices/customer/RequestProductList";

  <?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?>
  <SOAP-ENV:Envelope
  xmlns:SOAP-ENV="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/";
  xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";
  xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema";>
    <SOAP-ENV:Body>
      <ns1:RequestProductList
  xmlns:ns1="http://www.yaddayadday.com/webservices/customer";
  SOAP-ENV:encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/";>
         <ns1:Login xsi:type="xsd:string">USERID</ns1:Login>
         <ns1:Password xsi:type="xsd:string">PASSWORD</ns1:Password>
      </ns1:RequestProductList>
  </SOAP-ENV:Body>
  </SOAP-ENV:Envelope>


Below is my code ( that looks like all the samples I found around). -------------------------------------------------------------------

  URL url = new
  URL("http://www.yaddayadday.com/webservices/customer/customer.asmx";);

  Call call = new Call();
  call.setEncodingStyleURI(Constants.NS_URI_SOAP_ENC);
  call.setTargetObjectURI("http://www.yaddayadday.com/webservices/customer";);
  call.setMethodName("RequestProductList");
  call.setSOAPMappingRegistry(Smr);

Vector params = new Vector();

  params.add(new Parameter("Login",String.class,"USERID",null) );
  params.add(new Parameter("Password",String.class,"PASSWORD",null) );

call.setParams(params);

resp =

call.invoke(url,"http://www.yaddayadday.com/webservices/customer/RequestProductList";);


Conclusion ----------

  So my question is if Apache SOAP is using a non standard implementation or
  if I am doing something wrong
  in my code/assumption. Anyone know how to solve this without rewriting the
  SOAP Apache implementation or the service ?

/Thanks, Jer

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Anne Thomas Manes
VP & Research Director
Burton Group

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Anne Thomas Manes
VP & Research Director
Burton Group




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