For demonstration purposes I have made a 3m meter glider with a foam
fuselage covered with glass or paper and the wings made  with blue foam
spruce spars and brown paper covering .  For control I used pull pull
through McDonald's drinking straws exiting all together just in front of the
fin.  Of course this was a good split to the rudder but definitely offset a
bit to the elevator.  The elevator had to be off set a long way to the side
to clear the long rudder.  The plane flew well.    I used a bolt through the
dowel I had put in the rudder before vacuuming on the brown paper.  The bolt
extended about one inch beyond each side of the hinge line.  I made up for
some of the offset or setback in the two surfaces by using wheels on the
servos.  I pulled not from the center hole that would make them a straight
line on the axis of the servo wheel but back one hole on each side.  I used
the Kevlar similar to what Sullivan supplies in their pull pull kits but I
got it on the control line  reel probably from the same Sullivan.  This is
supposed to be good for about 120#.  I knotted at the control surface end
then put it through the hole on the servo on both sides then around the
screw in the center.  If you remember to wind in the direction of the
tightening of the screw and leave enough slack the lines can easily be made
quite tight.  Kevlar has little give so don't over tighten the Kevlar or the
screw in the center of the servo holding them.

Bottom line a cheap cheap cheap good flying plane.  Or to be more on the
sales side a very inexpensive unit.

Since then I have attempted to sophisticate the plane and have made a John
Sullivan type fuselage with a glass blue foam spruce spar wing.  This time
The fuselage was hollow so I put a nylon exit in front of the fin to keep
from cutting the Kevlar where it would be sawing into the exit hole.  This
combination worked very well too.    I made the stab to be removable by
making a saddle on the boom the same time I made the wing saddle but put
bolts up through the fuse into the stab and down through the wing into the
fuselage.  Stab assembly is not too difficult and it permitted putting the
whole combination into a large gun case.  The whole combination came
together finally with a decent day to fly yesterday .

In my case of learning I was happy to have overdone it on the strength of
the line that I used.  The Kevlar held up well except when I took it around
for demonstration .  I left the stab loose so you could easily see how it
worked and with it flopping as it was passed from person to person it really
does a job fraying that type of Kevlar.

Rick

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:54:39 +0000
From: dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


To: Les Grammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Question on pull-pull elevator...
Message-ID: <kOl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Les

Tried fire line and it stretches under the tension (Rudder not Elevator)
I went to 30lb pike stainless ptfe covered trace and never suffered
another problem you can get crimps that fit it also so making up
connections are easy.

Dave


 [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Les Grammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes
>Sorry, no story this time, just a question.  I'm setting up an open-class
>TD ship, and installing a pull-pull elevator.  I'm was planning on using a
>kevlar line by Berkley (Fireline).  Is 20lb strength sufficient, or am I
>asking for trouble?


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