This is chris setting and i am a manufacture of model aircraft myself.  I 
have a molded vortex and my self make the composite aircraft's also but I use 
the balsa and glass method.  Not strong as Steve's molded vortex not even 
close.  Steve went throughout major head aches to refine his product to be by 
far the strongest air craft made in the industry.  Just the carbon it self 
cost a small fortune.  My vortex has had many bad landings and a few hard 
hits.  Still looks good and still fly better then any other 60" sloper on the 
market thanks to master mark Allen.  Steve I dont know how you could improve 
the model any more.  If you ask me Steve the price of the vortex from a 
manufacturing stand point you should be getting around $500 for that kit.P.S. 
I cannot breakemy vortex it is to strong!!!!!  Steve this guy must have some 
other vortex not your carbon one. If any one wants to know how well or how 
strong the vortex is call C.S. MODELS AT (707)837-9920 Strongest plane made 
VORTEX FUSE WORKS
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