John, 
You ARE NOT OFF BASE, but RIGHT ON!!!
Okay, how many young kids have joined LOFT in the last 10 years?
Who is our youngest member?
I started with LOFT in 1978 at age 27.
I think Jeff Friend ( Bill's son) was about the youngest I recall at about age 
14.
How about we tap the club treasury, or we all throw in a few bucks, invite some 
kids out, and have  RAFFLE for a 2M Fling?
Okay how about Phil donating an inexpensive radio setup?
Give these kids something to show up for!
Or let's COMBINE modelling and the EAA YOUNG EAGLES program , and take it into 
the schools, show some videos of modelling and what it's all about.
OR let's make some very strong CRASHABLE FOAM 2M sailplanes, if they wang it, 
we can get them back in the air in a few minutes.
They may not be pretty sailplanes, but very workable demonstration sailplanes, 
and fairly cheap to produce.

I have a Tekoa foam cutter setup we can use, I have 3 bows, thermal power 
supply, and several of the accesories, circle cut, etc.
Okay guys send me your thoughts!
  Blue skies!

 Ed

From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2006/08/01 Tue AM 10:53:42 CDT
To: Jeff Steifel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: LOFT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Soaring <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LOFT] [RCSE] Further 2-Meters thoughts

Jeff,

I may be way off base (and I'm sure you all will let me know) but I thing a
revival of the one design low cost model contest would do more than anything
we are now doing to get new and young pilots into the hobby. Even if it was
a Spirit, Vista, or Fling 2M ARF type of model that would be an affordable
entry for the new blood. If AMA or LSF would promote the idea of clubs
having a once a week or month one design fly/contest it would give a venue
for the new flyers. It could also be a real eye opener for the completive
fliers. It would promote a leveling of the field to see who is the best
pilot and thermal reader with the same basic low cost equipment (no pic's).
It would be nice to see who can fly without a voice in the ear telling them
where the lift is.

John

P.S. If anyone in LOFT would like to start a Wednesday night one-design fly
let me know. I see where Tower Hobby has several entry-level ARF's that
would be an easy and fast way to start.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Steifel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 10:45 AM
To: Ben Wilson
Cc: Soaring; LASS Soaring List
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Further 2-Meters thoughts

Ok, lets dispel the cost issue. There is a minor difference in cost for
a RES two meter vs RES unlimited. either can be inexpensive or expensive
(AVA like)
There is a minor diff in cost for a full house 2m vs a full house unlimited.
apples to apples.

there is a larger diff between a  res and anything full house.

Competition makes you a better pilot. Competition can be great fun if
you understand you will win and lose. Not everyone will be JW's or DP's,
get over it and have some fun.

THE HOBBY NEEDS MORE YOUTHS!!!

Ed Wilson and the rest of the LASS club have done a great thing in
supporting Lee. There is a good amount of time and effort being put into
that young guy and it doesn't go unnoticed.
 I think we are all appreciative. Lee may be the next generation of
fliers to carry the torch that allows the legacy of soaring to continue...


Ben Wilson wrote:

> I don't think that 2-meter is in jeopardy, though I would like to make
> a few points to reinforce it's importance in the overall soaring world:
>
> 1. This hobby needs more youth(s) to continue to grow.
>
> 2. Youths (and many new soarers) don't have the experience or the
> money to fly big ships.
>
> 3. Soaring is and will remain a hobby where competition is part and
> parcel of the experience.
>
> 4. 2-meter at the NATS allows those new fliers to compete at a
> national level in an event that they alone (and not their plane) are
> the determining factor.
>
> Ed Wilson achieved something special this year: he mentored a young
> dude with a small ship (but big dreams) with the intention of taking
> him to the NATS.  It's a great goal, and one that we think will keep
> Lee and others like him in this hobby.  2-meter at the NATS is the
> perfect event to show new fliers what soaring is all about.
>
> Since we already have, and will hopefully continue to have, a 2-meter
> competition -- all we need is more Lee's, right?  :)
>
>

--
Jeff Steifel

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