Gordy, you have a good point. The reason I posted on RCGroups is because I could attach the pictures. Here, for everyone else, is the data I collected today.
"I flew a 2.4 friendly Supra in Phoenix and it worked great. Now I wanted to convert my Pike Perfect but without going to the expense of ordering another new fuselage. I don't really like the "whiskers" on the Spektrum system but there is probably no way around it with all the carbon on the Perfect. I did want to minimize the number of holes I had to drill in a perfectly good, fairly new plane. I molded a fiberglass canopy and mounted the remote receiver in the upper part of the canopy with the whiskers sticking out horizontally. I will have to plug in each time I fly but that wont be a big deal. I just cut the wire that comes with the receiver and put a servo connector in the circuit. I mounted the main receiver in the normal Perfect location with the antenna that runs parallel to the long edge of the receiver (antenna B per a data logger) toward to top and rear so it runs inside the fiberglass canopy. On the second main receiver (A) I shrink wrapped another wire to the original that extends the length 62 mm (There are some threads on RCGroups that show this technique). I then ran this antenna vertically out the top of the canopy. The attached pictures show the installation. Today I got in 4 flights (3 with the data logger attached). The flights were all in the 5 to 8 minute range and I never experienced any visible problem. The data logger results were as follows. For receiver A (the one running out from the canopy vertically) I experienced and average of 154 fades (ranging from 255 to 32). For receiver B (running parallel to the fuselage inside the canopy) I experienced an average of 488 fades (ranging from 163 to 977). The remote receiver experienced an average of 135 fades ranging from 52 to 286. In the 3 instrumented flights I experienced an average of 161 frame losses ranging from 55 to 269. I had 2 holds on one flight and none on the others. This is not as good as JR recommends. I think the main problem area was when the plane was at a distance going away at shallow angles. In this case receiver B would be totally invisible because of the carbon in the fuselage and wing. The antennas for receiver A and the remote could also experience intermittent shielding. My next move will be to run the antenna from receiver B out the top of the canopy and receiver A out of the bottom side of the fuselage (that will be one hole in my new Pike). I won't be able to do this until next week because of business travel but will report the results when I get them. I think I will also put the logger in my Supra and see how it does." I would like to hear any feedback you all have on this, especially If you are successfully using a JR/Spektrum in a carbon Pike. Thanks. Bruce T. ________________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 1:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring@airage.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Thanks Bruce! This is what the RCSE has excelled at! I feel that this is a hobby that is made more interesting by projects like the 2.4 Carbon solution, bits and pieces of ideas, testing ,sharing and even some arguing about it,,,the projects ;-). Thanks for being part of the solution! I am seriously excited about this! Yes its a problem soon to go away as new ships all come in with 2.4 friendly noses, but for now and likely the next season, its crazy for us to be tossing Perfect ly good fuses because no one figured out how to make them work with the new systems. Come on you guys, get involved and share! And don't forget, its fine to post your stuff on the place where nobody signs their names (RC Groups) but don't forget to post it also to RCSE where its shoved in front over everyone's noses, everyone can see it, read it or delete it....everyone ;-). Good stuff Bruce! Gordy In a message dated 2/27/2008 3:10:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just posted some actual data logger results for my Spektrum installation in a carbon Pike Perfect. I had 4 flights today (3 with the data logger) with no issues visible from the ground. It is not exactly where I want it yet but it is close. The thread talks about what I will do next. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=825409 Bruce RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format ________________________________________ Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
