Hmm....
 50 sec dead air times with a 34" glider of any configuration seems amazing?
Maybe I should try one of these.  Do you know the airfoils, I would like to
build one.

Mike

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Subject: [RCSE] HLG in the form of flying wings


> Mr. Resin Head,
>
> Not knowing exactly what type of environment you intend to fly these
flying
> wing HLGs in (Thermal for fun, Thermal for competition, slope for fun,
> etc.), it is hard to make a good recommendation, however, I like everyone
> else in this world, it seems, will freely give my advice.  ;-)
>
> The only flying wings I have ever owned and flown are the ones from
Thermal
> Gromit Works (www.tgworks.com).  I believe Dick mentioned them in another
> reply.  I have found these hand launched flying wings great fun.  The
> reasons are as follows:
>
> They are compact.  I took one of them to Puerto Rico and on a day trip to
> San Jose.  It is simple to fit one or more in your carry on luggage, and
> still have room for clothing and all of your radio gear.  I live in
> Indiana, so having a compact machine that I can take to enjoy
> thermaling/sloping in far off lands is a cool thing.  They are also so
> small that you barley notice leaving them in your car for the summer, and
> this is good for honing pilot skills.  I built 3 Chinooks and practiced 4
> days a week (sometimes at lunch and in the evenings) for most of the
spring
> and summer.  When you own a Chinook or a Herring, there is never an excuse
> for being caught with free time on a nice day and not having a glider
> around.  I flew a Chinook as recently as Friday, when there was a break in
> the rainy nasty weather we have had in Indiana recently from my parents
> back yard.
>
> They are cheap.  At like 70 bucks a pop (for complete hardware, the
> covering material, and the coloring markers) and plenty of availability
(no
> need to place your order and then wait for a few months, like you might
> have to do with the prefab composite ships that require so much manual
> labor by their manufactures) I could build 3 ships quickly.  With 3 of the
> same ships, I quickly learned what differences in trim make (lateral
> balance, CG, control throws, etc.) that might have caused me problems
> before that I could never quite figure out.  I learned that if you put the
> gear as far forward as possible and use the lightest wood for the tail you
> can fly a Chinook at 4.5 ounces.  A 4.5 ounce Chinook really hangs.  I
> could pretty consistently get 45-50 second dead air times with the light
> Chinook.  Dead air times of 30-40 seconds with a 5.5 ounce Chinook is more
> realistic.  I also tried out that trimming article by Bryan somebody (it
> has been posted several times) and found that once I knew where I wanted
my
> CG, I had all 3 Chinooks flying well.
>
> They thermal well. It might be because of all the extra stick time, but I
> was more successful at getting good flights with the Chinooks than I had
> been with my previous hlgs (Wizard and Wizard Light, Monarch D,
Chrysalis).
> In my experience, the best conditions to thermal the Chinooks in is low
> wind.  They also do best in tight strong thermals.  You can really crank
> these little guys, and I have out climbed more conventional HLGs in tight
> lift.  In a given lunch practice session of 45 minutes, I generally would
> have plenty of 2 and 3 minute flights and usually a 5+.  This in a field
> that was not the worlds best but was close to where I work.
>
> They launch high.  The tip launched sidearm (in this case more of an
> underarm) launch is way cool.  Launch consistency is high, and you don't
> need to be crazy strong or coordinated to get good launches.  I can easily
> launch the Chinook to similar altitude as the better overarm launchers.  I
> was not able to do this when I flew the traditional javelin style launches
> ships.
>
> They are durable.  They really take a beating.  And after they get a bit
> banged up, you can give them a "new coat of paint" by simply taking the
> Monocote Iron to them to get rid of the wrinkles.  You would be suprised
> how much better they fly after you perform this routine maintenance
>
> Good luck with your quest for a hand launch flying wing, and I hope this
> helps.
>
>
>
>
>
> Ryan
>
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