I'm sad you have such a bitter outlook on the current contest formats.

I personally love F3J because:
* Man-on-Man-  I get to try to fly strategically against 3 to 14 other
pilots who are in the air at the exact same time.
* 10 and 15 minute rounds:  With the long rounds it adds to stratedgy and
often creates a situation where one thermal won't last you, you'll need to
go up wind and hook up again.
*  Not a huge emphasis on landing-  compared to many US AMA thermal contests
where the winner is almost always determined by dorking the bullseye. In F3J
you get maximum landing points by being in a 1 meter radius circle. For each
one meter extra you are away you lose 5 landing points.

I love F3B because:
* Everything listed under F3J
* Course- Unlike 98% of the glider contests in the US, in 2 of the 3 F3B
tasks you have to steer your craft around a given course and you are scored
on this ability (time or # laps).  Those who have never tried this, you are
missing out on a HUGE way of improving your flying skills and a fun way of
gauging your progression in flying skills.


I think you missunderstand many of us.  I don't give a hoot who the world
champ is either.  Although, he is definately a great pilot and I would be
improving my own flying skills by competing with him man-on-man.  I've told
many people that I wouldn't want to be on the "elite" team in F3B or F3J
because I enjoy testing my skills flying against these guys.

Mark Taylor
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----- Original Message -----
From: "d. o. darnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Cottrill, Flash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 11:49 AM
Subject: [RCSE] extreme soaring, extreme equipment, extremely boring


> Good Idea.
>
> I'll never admit to getting old, although I"ll be 60 in May.  I was smart
> enough to invest in an PRK so at least I can still see.
> However, it isn't the eyesight or the reflexes I'm so concerned about as
> much as I am the expense.  (rules and all that other stuff aside).
>
> Yes, I have a couple of grand invested in the two Heras I'm currently
> campaigning, but there are only four other guys in our club now who
compete
> and all of them have a lot more invested than I.  It takes a lot of cash
to
> compete so I fear that unless prices come down a whole lot, there will be
> fewer and fewer of us as time goes on.
>
> Events which are more fun and less expensive are the keys to the future if
> we are to have any.  Otherwise, the sport will become a whole different
> thing.  (Witness what happened to drag racing, for instance)  HLG aint it.
> F3J defiantly aint it and forget about F3B.
> (with the exception of the twenty or so guys who participate)
>
> Personally, I don't give a hoot in hell who is the F3b or F3J or
F3whatever
> champion.  I do this to have fun.  When the fun runs out, Elvis leaves the
> building.
>
> I believe the day of the home-builder-kit-model-world-champion is
definitely
> over.  It's sad, but true.  Some think this is a good thing, but it has
> killed a large aspect of an otherwise really fun hobby.
>
> I often take out my 60" poly and light highstart and fly for a couple
hours
> all by myself.  I've also taken up parkflying with micro-electrics.  Cheap
> ones.
>
> Sheese, sorry for the rant, but I guess I just got board with all the BS
on
> the forum and struck out at what was pissing me off.
> It's just my nature.
>
> Regards
> D.O.
>
>
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