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>  Another guy told me it was a Sabre that shot down the first MiG 15 in Korea, but I 
>thought a Panther or Cougar had gotten at least ONE kill before then, or am I wrong?

I've always understood that it was a Lockheed F-80 (P-80?) Shooting Star that was 
involved in the first ever jet-to-jet battle when it shot down a MiG-15 in Korea.

>  Same guy said to me WW2 Thunderbolts had gone supersonic in power dives, I think I 
>read Jugs and Mustangs could sometimes go transonic for very brief moments, but 
>became unstable and subject to explosive flutter/ structural failure from 
>incompressibility at those speeds.

Never heard claims of a prop driven airplane going supersonic, but I have heard 
claims/rumors that a British pilot had gone supersonic before the X-1, and similar 
stories to the one you mention about an American plane.

Brett

> 
> Anybody have the facts or actual experience?
> 
> Oh, to make it back on topic, I like the M&M foamie Sabre in the catalogs, anybody 
>fly one of those?
> 
> Thanks.
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