Cool, I  knew we would drag Joe into this sooner or later. :)

Joe & Jan Wurts wrote:
> 
> Ummm...  I guess I havta provide some balance here.
> 
> For pure speed, nothing beats moldies.  Span, span, span...  (or
> more properly, L/D in the turn, L/D....)  For the "real" DS diehards
> that have gotten past the huge adrenaline rush that moldie DS
> used to give,

Is it desirable to "get past this" though?  I certainly hope I never do.  Heh, I think 
you guys are spoiled
by the conditions at Parker.

> the foamies can give a satisfaction that the moldies
> cannot.  DS rolling circles, vertical figure 8 circuits (no ailerons
> allowed!), outside DS, DS around objects, DS figure 8 racing, ...
> Almost all of the above cannot be done intelligibly with a fast moldie,
> but can be done with foam (okay, some foam). 

While I certainly wouldn't attempt all these manuvers with a moldie, I can do at least 
a few of them.  The main issue is that I 
don't think a JW could do this stuff in the normal conditions I find at my particular 
flying site.  Perhaps a better pilot could...I don't know.  Again, I think the flying 
site geometry makes a huge difference, as well as the typical wind conditions for your 
site.

> I would not be able to
> do the same stuff with the composite toys currently available.  This
> is especially true in that I like working on the edge of my personal
> performance envelope, which entails the occasional meeting with
> terra firma.  

While I can't claim to be a great contest pilot (or a contest pilot period, for that 
matter) I've found the same thing to be true.  I can only improve when I go beyond 
what I think my limits are.  Doing the same thing over and over and over tends not to 
improve my performance very much (or if it does, it takes a really long period of 
time)...it's usually when I push a little bit beyond that my performance in the 
original thing I was working on gets better.  I definitely understand the JW's appeal 
in this sense.  Right now my "performace improving" plane is an old CR composite 
Renegade.  I really should get a JW, though, because that's not very fair to the ole' 
Renegade. 

Brett

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