The Olympic 99 uses a modified NACA 6409 with the trailing edge
stock placed flat on the building board which gives a slight reflex to the 
true 6409.  Lee Renaud derived the Oly 99 wing from the with the Thermic 100 
wing.

A bit of moldie-oldie trivia...

--Bill


>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [RCSE] Predator configuration, Oly II airfoil
>Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 05:02:23 -0600
>
>At 09:13 PM 12/4/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >Didn't the Oly II have an E-205 airfoil as did most of the earlier
> >Airtronics sailplanes and gliders?  Larry Jolly should know the answer to
> >this puzzle.
> >  Jerry Miller
>
>No.  I am not sure but I think the original Olympic used an undercambered
>airfoil.  The Oly II used a true flatbottomed airfoil similar to the
>Drifter and Sailaire.  The Aquilia used a modified E387 while the Sagitta
>used a modified E205.  The undercamber was removed from both while the
>leading edge radius of the E205 was increased.  I compared the modified
>E205 and E387 airfoils to the true airfoils about 20 years ago when I was
>first started developing my airfoil plotting program.  Not sure exactly why
>the modifications but I remember Lee mentioning that he liked to increase
>the leading edge radius to improve the stall characteristics.  I also know
>he sometimes modified a design so that the components would fit into
>existing kit boxes rather than to stock two different boxes.
>
>A side note on airfoils.  Back in 1978, I designed a trainer for a fellow
>club member who was interested in switching to sailplanes but was short on
>cash.  I used a shortened fuselage from my unsuccessful 1976 F3B model and
>needed a quick airfoil.  (This was 5 years before I wrote my first airfoil
>plot program.)  I was impressed by the nice handling characteristics of the
>Sailaire so elected to use a similiar airfoil.  I didn't have coordinates
>for the Sailaire airfoil so I measured the leading edge radius, maximum
>thickness, location of the maximum thickness, and trailing edge angle.  I
>scaled the measurements down to a 10 inch chord and connected the top
>points with a No. 64 french curve.  The reason for using that particular
>french curve was that I knew from previous models that the shape of that
>particular curve was very close to the E387 top surface aft of the maximum
>thickness when plotted to a 10 inch chord length.  The resulting model was
>named for the star, Spica, and the typical sailplane landing.  The Spica
>was my most successful sailplane design and I sold about two dozen
>semi-kits over the next few years.
>
>I always refered to the airfoil used on the Spica as a Generic California
>Flatbottom airfoil because of it's similiarity to a lot of the airfoils
>used in sailplane kits of that era.  When Michael Selig began his original
>Prinston wind tunnel tests of model airfoils, I suggested that he include a
>typical flatbottom airfoil as a baseline airfoil for comparison.  He
>thought this was a good idea and ask me to build a wind tunnel model of my
>airfoil.  The name was too long so the name was changed to the model which
>used the airfoil. That's the way the Spica airfoil came to be in Michael's
>first group of airfoils published in SoarTech 8.
>
>Now for the rest of the story.  A few years later, I was surprised to read
>in a Hobby Lobby ad that one of the models they were imported used a
>computer designed airfol called the Spica.  After a little investigation,
>Jim Martin confirmed that the German manufacturer had obtained the airfoil
>from SoarTech 8.   So, for all you Xfoil users, that's the way we did it in
>the good old days.
>
>Chuck Anderson


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