Hey, Jack---I thought the NATS was fine.  I came, I saw, and I didnt
conquor, but I enjoyed it.  I didnt stay all week--couldnt--but flew the
events I chose.  Dont change anything.   Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Strother" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pat McCleave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Nats's changes..one day events..


> Pat,
> We have looked, very hard.!!
> F3B and Scale would be the most Likely to go, as the numbers justify it.
> I did canvas the Left coast, with the idea of a 2-day rotating  F3B / F3J
> event, as well as maybe reducing 2-m to 1 day and possibly shifting H/L.
> The Best I could get out of the west was maybe 5 guys.... for F3B only or
> maybe F3J.
> I am not willing to piss off 40 + F3J guys to give "maybe" 10 east coast
> and "maybe" 5 west coast guys 2 days of F3B.
> Its a numbers game, as you can imagine.
> I caught Flack from a number of sources about the 2-M move as well.
> I would Love to cater to the well attended events, however again, the
> squeakier wheels seem to get the grease.
> I have attended contests North to south, east to west as MY broken wallet
> can account for, trying to garner support for the Nats and the LSF.
> I keep banging my head on the  Regional issue. the Travel issue, and the
> One Day event issue, and when I asked for what kind of support I could
> expect,  If I did make a change, I got SQUAT !!
> Every Discipline wants 2 or 3 days at the Nats, We simply do not have the
> time nor the manpower that will commit to the work.
> Ergo, Despite all the moaning, and such, I am not inclined to change any
> thing. Too Late for this year anyway.
> You Can ask around, there are people who know that I have been on this
> mission for better than 2 years.
> We will deal with what we have and enjoy it....for Now...
> The way to change things is not to piss and moan, wish in one hand and
dump
> in the other, but to ATTEND and voice your concerns with earnest and
> support, ... Not to sit behind a screen, and crank out e-mails, and I am
> not referring to you, but the others of the masses who feel compelled to
> rip and tear with discrimination, and offer no viable solutions.
> Earlier today, someone offered up the suggestion that local LSF groups out
> west could support a Nationals,  In the last elections, we got a total of
5
> votes from west of the Mississippi,  and all year long we got probably 10
> complaints about the vouchers....
> The numbers are not there..
> Thanks for your support in the past and the future...I am off my box...for
> now..
> Jack
>
>
> At 01:27 PM 12/7/2001 -0600, Pat McCleave wrote:
> >Jack,
> >
> >I was not proposing adding more days, I was proposing adding days to the
> >more popular events at the cost of the less popular (less attended)
events.
> >I do not get to go to the Nats very often but when I do go, I go and
> >volunteer along with my flying, so I know what you mean about the long
> >days and such.  I was a member of the winch crew and was usually there
> >from dawn to dusk and enjoyed myself emensely.  I think the organizing
> >committee should look hard and long at some events and see if it would
> >benefit attendance to make a few changes.  When I get to attend next, I
am
> >sure I will be flying all of the events I have planes for and helping at
> >the ones I don't, either way I will be having fun.
> >
> >See Ya,
> >
> >Pat McCleave
> >Wichita, KS
> >
> >
> >>From: Jack Strother <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: [RCSE] Nats's changes..one day events..
> >>Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 14:13:59 -0500
> >>
> >>Breck and many others,
> >>Your complaint and /or observation about the one day events, like HL,
F3J,
> >>F3B, Scale and X/C has been noted.
> >>Many times, as a matter of fact.
> >>I wish there was something we could do, the issues are Time, VOLUNTEER
> >>Labor, site availability, and the weather.
> >>I and many others put in 10 LONG days working the NATS.
> >>When the final Saturday came this last year, for many of us....it was a
fun
> >>fly day.
> >>Single day events, are one of the reasons that we do not see too many
> >>people from the Left Coast.
> >>Personally, I am sorry that they can / will not come. There are some
really
> >>kool people to fly with, out there.
> >>I travel, I fly, I attempt to compete, and most of all I have a good
time
> >>with good people..
> >>For me, thats what its about..
> >>Jack
> >
> >
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> Jack Strother           LSF President
> Loveland, OH            LSF 2948
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