Simon,

I have one of the new NYX's and am very impressed with its speed envelope.
I only have the Lite version but it is still very stiff in the fuse.  For
speed though I would suggest the Carbon version.  Much stiffer, a little
heavier and has provisions for more ballast.  Yet another fast plane offered
by the guys at www.f3x.com.

See Ya,

Pat McCleave
Wichita, KS


----- Original Message -----
From: Simon Van Leeuwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 3-Soaring Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:24 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Speedy Aircraft


> I have had a number of queries asking what sort of off-the-shelf
> composite aircraft might be capable of flying competively (really,
> really fast). I know the list below is not complete, but at least it is
> a start.
> The idea being, is that these aircraft manufacturers can be approached
> to add extra reinforcement in the appropriate areas (if actually
> needed).
>
> I would like to hear from pilots/manufacturers/vendors who believe there
> are other A/C that could/should be added to this list. I know there are
> some DS'ing folks producing small batches of this and that which might
> be appropriate.
> This effort is not an attempt (at least at this point) to compare/weigh
> the relative qualities of each aircraft, but more as a jumping off point
> for those pilots who would approach any of the manufacturers/vendors on
> their own to acquire model(s) that will stand up to the punishment they
> will altimately see! On the other hand...you could roll your own.
> Lets here from you, I mean let's here from those who know of aircraft
> that would at least have a chance(?) of staying together after diving
> for 10-15 seconds, then pulling out to enter/exit the 200 meter course.
> Cm'on...I dare ya...here is the list so far:
>
> Compact II              ET-Air
> Acacia II               F3X, NSP
> Hades II                Icare, F3X
> Cobra II                F3X
> Pike WR                 F3X
> Tragi 702               F3X
> Stratos SR              Shredair
> Elipse series           Jaro Muller
> Sting F3X
>
>
> p.s. Keep in mind the following FAI rules:
>
> Maximum surface area (including stab) 150dm^2
> Maximum flying mass 5.0Kg
> Loading of the stab 12 to 75 g/dm^2
> Minimum nose radius 7.5mm
>
> Also keep in mind that there is no prefabrication issue (builder of the
> model rule).
>
> Some things to consider:
> -Tailboom stiffness. There has to be relativel litlle hysterysis (little
> flex) between the main wing and pitch control surfaces at very high
> speeds
> -Airfoils I like; RG-15 (thinned), HQ108, MH-30,
> -V-tails
> -Ballast capable
> -5-cells
> -Strobes for vertical descent
> -Good thermalling ability/reflex for speed
> -Highly visible
> -Very short linkages, servos at or in control surface area
>
>
>
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>    Simon Van Leeuwen, Calgary, Alberta
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