Hi Jim,
I agree with you on not removing the skegs. What I would disallow are skegs over 11/2 
in. in length.
They should be made of nylon or similar material which will bend a little.
Skegs , in my opinion, are a safety feature in that they generally keep the plane from
sliding into you or your timer or some spectator.
Another item I would not allow is the gyro.I have one but will not install it in one 
of my gliders.
I like to fly all by myself. This may make it more challanging but that's what 
contests are about.
I don't want some device doing my flying for me. There are lots of these gyros out 
there
and if you don't use one you are at a disadvantage.
Let's fly our gliders as they were meant to be flown and stop all the bickering.
Enuff for now.
Regards, Art

Jim Monaco wrote:

> This comes up all the time and disallowing skegs doesn't help anything and
> in fact introduces the luck factor.  When landings at 1 point per inch are
> used as discriminators, few (if any) can manage their energy well enough to
> consistently judge the slide within inches.  In Phoenix the top 50 all
> basically got their time and it would have been even closer on time, but
> most people gave up a few seconds to score well on the landings. Removing
> skegs, and landing downwind would have made the contest results a crap
> shoot.  So - why do we have 1 inch measurements - to discriminate a winner.
> In FAI events they don't allow skegs, but the landing zone is measured in
> METERS.  In my club, when we use the FAI tapes and no skegs, if you can't
> get a 90 you get razzed outta town.  Heck - even our novices consistently
> get 90s on those tapes.  All that means is that the scores are closer - the
> same guys win.  If you take the skegs off and use the AMA tapes, you might
> as well throw dice instead of landing.  If I want to try my luck - I'll hit
> the casinos.
>
> If you want to do well - practice your landings.  My soaring bud and I shot
> at least 150 landings from the short histart the week before the contest.  I
> know that the winner spent considerable time the weekend before the contest
> practicing DOWNWIND landings (as we wondered why you would do that :)).  I
> prefer a skill contest because I can improve on that - I have not had nearly
> as much success trying to improve my luck.
>
> And please don't take this as a personal attack - it is not.  Just my
> personal opinions on landings.
>
> Jim Monaco
> Rocky Mountain Soaring Association
> Denver, CO
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 7:16 AM
> To: Pat McCleave; RCSE
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] Not a Launch Contest
>
> > Face it no matter what you do from
> > landings, to launch limits, to one design contests, the guys that
> practice,
> > practice, practice are still going to win.  Just my two cents worth.
>
> Pat,
> I agree that practice will enhance your chances of doing well. How about
> eliminating the skegs to make it a bit more interesting?
>
> Regards,
> Bob Johnson
> Fond du Lac, WI
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