Ok, I have nearly reached a decision! I found a shop which has a Flair Sunrise kit!!! Im going to buy this and save it for later (after I have built the DH Mosquito which has been sitting in the box for 18 months). I now know that I will either buy the BOT, Big Bird or Majestic. The BOT is the cheapest and I can get the kit in the UK so no expensive customs or shipping charges. The Big Bird is 100" which is good as it leaves more comps open for entry. The Majestic looks like the most modern and versitile model, but is also the most expensive, and heaviest (I think). Could anyone who has flown 2 of these give a comparison? Is the BOT a reasonable fast build? Are there many comps in the UK for open class RES / Non-composite models or would I be best to stick to 100"? Sorry for all the questions, I have lost touch with the TD world over the last few years. Justin ---------- Original Message ------------- Subject: Re: [RCSE] : 100"+ non-moulded ship Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:30:49 -0500 From: "Ed Jett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Justin Fielding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Justin: Take a look at Skybench. They have the OLY II kits and the Big Bird. Ray doesn't show the Osprey on his website anymore, but you could ask about them. http://www.skybench.com/ You might take a look at NSP's Kestrel 100. http://www.nesail.com/kestrelstd.html Good luck on your quest. Regards, Ed Jett Marion, MS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Fielding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] : 100"+ non-moulded ship There are the John Stevens Eliminator models, but they are not cheap and there is LOADS of work to do on them, Im building his HLG and that is painful (need to build a vac bagger). The BOT looks great and I would be able to get the kit in the UK, I am however tempted by the Big Bird as it is 100" (can use in 100 comps) and has spoilers. Majestic, kit looks very fast to build, great quality kit, but really think it looks ugly, and I have never really liked slow flying v-tail models (have a HLG with vtail and it just mushes). At the end of the day I just want a versitile thermal model which will make the most of the small amounts of lift that we seem to get around here. Not too heavy on construction time. Cheap and strong. A friend of mine had a Flair Sunrise, that was an amazing glider, I flew it a few times and never had a short flight. Wish I could get a kit for this now, its such a shame they stopped it. The same with the Sailplanes International Osprey 100", I had one of these. I brought it second hand for �25. Nylon covered it was very strong, yet it thermaled great! I lost it when I specked out a few summers ago. ---------- Original Message ------------- Subject: Re: [RCSE] : 100"+ non-moulded ship Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 07:08:37 -0400 From: "Andrew E. Mileski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Justin Fielding wrote: > The thing is, I am reluctant to go for an American kit as: > > 1: I will get stung by customs when I have it shipped over. > 2: You guys in the USA seem to have much stronger lift than here in the UK. > A plane that you just cannot get down, might have problems getting up over > here. > > Sorry, should have said im in the UK. Am I wrong on either of the above > points? 1: Get used to it. I'm in Canada where the dollar is $0.65 USD, I have to pay shipping and customs too. Everything is made in the U.S. it seems. If you do find a UK native kit, post about it for the benefit of others. Majestic : $159 USD + shipping http://www.laserartco.com/ Bird of Time: $65 USD + shipping http://www.towerhobbies.com/ 2: They don't get much lighter for the size. A BoT will fly on gopher gas, hence my remark about adding spoilers (you don't have to of course). Majestic : 110", 990 sqin, 60-70 oz (8.7-10.2 oz/sqft) Bird of Time: 118", 1070 sqin, 41-52 oz (5.5- 7 oz/sqft) I hope you find a suitable flying machine :) -- Andrew E. Mileski Ottawa, Canada RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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