Hi As an interested bystander, it seems to me that to allow "updates" to RES and NOS ruins the reason for the class. If you want an updated class, start a new one. We have too many classes now I hear you say? Too bad, don't mess with RES and NOS, they are fine as they are! Just my 2 cents worth. Peter Presant (from way down here in New Zealand)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Thank goodness for RES and NOS > Bravo Jack! > > As to Bob's question...it will become what the people > at large want it to be, just like any class in our > hobby. > > I can see allowing "period" landing implements, ribbed > mat material and the gray Airtronics skids and such. > > I can also see the year cut off moving with the times. > Why not just allow a 20 year cut off? Maybe only > change it every 5 years. Any design that is over 20 > years old should be old enough to be nostalgic by the > people who flew them in the good old days. Remember > that some peoples good old days are different than > others. I am 50 now and I grew up flying Aquilas and > Windfree's and so the class as it is is right on > target. Someone who is 30 may see a Sagita or Falcon > 880 as the good old days and someday it should be. > > I could also see as some point needing a sub class > using an arbitrary date cut off as being what might be > called "The Golden Age of Soaring Class". > > Here's to the good old days. May they live forever. > > Mark > http://www.isthmusmodels.com > > > --- Jack Iafret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This may sound goofy coming from the person that > > submitted the rules change > > proposal, but it would not break my heart if all you > > interested in Nostalgia > > voted against the proposal to make Nostalgia an AMA > > event. > > > > I did the submission because of a fair number of > > requests by Nostalgia > > flyers to have it an AMA event. > > > > I have always treated the rules as belonging to the > > flyers of the event, not > > my personal rules, so if the flyers want to have it > > official, I feel > > obligated to at least try to fulfill their desires. > > > > I have no problem being the "Keeper", but also see > > some benefit of it being > > official. Let the democratic process take over and > > we will see where the > > outcome leads us. > > > > I would hope that even if the proposal passes, any > > rules changes proposed in > > the next cycle will be for the good of Nostalgia in > > general, not one persons > > agenda. Again, if all is good in the system ; ), > > those self serving > > proposals will fail. > > > > Remember, if you don't vote you condone anything > > that passes (or doesn't > > pass). > > > > Jack Iafret > > "Keeper of the Nostalgia Rules" > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Jeff Nibler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:46 AM > > Subject: [RCSE] Thank goodness for RES and NOS > > > > > > > Jeff Nibler wrote: > > > > > > > Thank goodness for RES and NOS! > > > > > > Yes, but for how long? > > > > > > As I composed the RES rules, Nostalgia was in the > > back of my mind. I > > > envisioned 'modernizing' existing sailplanes with > > better airfoils, > > changing > > > moment arms, better construction techniques, etc. > > Consequently, I > > 'borrowed' > > > part of the wording for landing skids from the > > existing Nostalgia rules > > > (thanks Jack). My philosophy was that if it works > > in Nostalgia, why not in > > > RES? To date, the only contest I am aware of that > > follows the rules to the > > > letter is the Nats; everyone else allows the use > > landing arresting > > devices. > > > A current rules change proposal would remove the > > section from the rules > > that > > > prohibits their use. > > > > > > If Nostalgia becomes an official AMA event, how > > long will it be before > > > someone changes those rules to allow landing > > arresting devices as well as > > > the cut-off date for Nostalgia legal aircraft? My > > guess is three years, > > the > > > length of an AMA rules cycle. > > > > > > And what will we have then? > > > > > > Bob Johnson > > > Fond du Lac, WI > > > > > > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane > > News. Send "subscribe" > > and "unsubscribe" requests to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that > > subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in > > text only format with > > MIME turned off. > > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane > > News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests > > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that > > subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in > > text only format with MIME turned off. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > http://shopping.yahoo.com > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. 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