The first thing is to make sure all switches are off away from you (towards the antenna) and on towards you (away from the antenna). This is the factory set for switch A and gives you a standard feel test. With the switches set this way, without taking your eyes off the plane and looking at the trans. you can tell if a switch in off or on by feel. The only switch that can't be standardized in this manner is G because it is 3 position. Once the switches have been set to off away and on towards the landing check list becomes a simple 2 step operation.
When you make the decision to land: 1. With your right hand momentarily off the stick check that all switches on the right side of the trans. are towards you (away from the antenna). 2. With your left hand momentarily off the stick check that all switches on the right side of the trans. are towards you (away from the antenna). If you are using switch B for a function that you don't want on during landing then you only have to check A for position. If you would like my switch assignments or a detailed TD set up I would be glad to share that also. Maurice ----- Original Message ----- From: ahearn_dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Maurice Podder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Futaba 9C Is A Disaster For Sailplanes > Maurice could you share your landing checklist? > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Maurice Podder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I believe a lot of the problem and complaints, especially about > > switches, stem from the fact that many who now own a 9C didn't own > > one of the previous versions, in particular the Super 8. The > Super > > 8H and the 9CH (you want the heli version to put the 3 position G > > switch on the left side of the transmitter instead of the right > > whether an 8 or a 9) have Identical switch locations and basic > > function. Anyone who flew a Super 8 became used to the need to > use > > switch A to activate butterfly, on their landing check list and to > > the use of the 3 position switch G for launch, normal flight and > > speed. An example of the use of switch A on the Super 8, which > had > > no sliders as the 9 does, was to put camber on the throttle stick > > with the use of a mixer and assigning switch A to turn it on in > the > > up position. So the Super 8 user who upgraded to a 9CH was > excited > > as I was and still am about the added features such as sliders and > > the switches isolating the trims to the programmed offset. In > fact I > > believe the new switch function is the greatest improvement on the > > 9CH. Even on the expensive radios you must land to make most > program > > changes or take your eyes of the plane to search through the > program > > while flying. While on the 9CH, because of the switches isolating > > the program, changes can be made without taking your eyes off the > > plane or landing. For example with the 3 position switch G in the > > launch position and the plane going up on the line, if you want a > > little steeper climb, add a couple of clicks of up elevator. > Because > > the switch isolates the trims to the particular function it is > > controlling, in this case launch, the changes in elevator are only > in > > effect when switch G is in the launch position. That means you > can > > make major changes in launch, speed and butterfly, without ever > > taking your eyes of the ship or having to land to enter the > program, > > by simply adjusting the trims (elevator, ailerons and rudder) when > > the switch for that function is activated. I believe the way the > > switches isolate the functions is as important as digital trims > and I > > can't imagine having a radio without it now. So if a person will > > develop a landing check list and learn to use the functions of the > > 9CH I'm sure they'll be as happy with it as I am. > > > > Maurice > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Steve Giron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As the saying goes, "A poor workman blames his tools" > > > > > > The 9C is a sub-300 dollar radio. > > > I would not expect it to have all the features of the 1,000 > dollar > > radios. > > > > > > You can configure the Butterfly mode to always be active. > > > This makes you have to remember one less thing when landing. > > > This is great for those who do not use a checklist when landing. > > > > > > You mentioned "modes" again. Flight modes are on the 1,000 > dollar > > radios. > > > The 9C has "mixes". This is the same for the predecessor 7x and > 8x > > radios. > > > > > > You can have SW G set camber per se and then have SW A turn > camber > > off. > > > You'd have to create an offset mix and assign it to SW A. If you > > left camber > > > on > > > and then wanted to use butterfly, it would return the wing to > > neutral if you > > > activated > > > butterfly and forgot to turn camber off. > > > > > > If you read about and try the 5 point mixes you can even do more. > > > > > > In my configuration, when I activate the speed (camber) mix, I > use > > > the slider on the left where I have variable entire wing camber. > If > > I use > > > the slider on the right, > > > only the flaps move. Since both of those sliders are configured > > with +, > > > neutral, - like the elevator stick, I also have an always on > offset > > mix that > > > allows the sliders to be in the full up position as neutral. > > > > > > The radio will do much more than the predefined mixes. > > > > > > I will post a complete TD set up configuration on the 9C in the > > next few > > > weeks. > > > It is based on the excellent set up by Jeff Reid on the 8U with > > added > > > features for the 9C. > > > > > > Good luck, > > > Steve Giron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "JEREMY BUSHELL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "RCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 7:27 AM > > > Subject: [RCSE] Futaba 9C Is A Disaster For Sailplanes > > > > > > > > > > Landing a sailplane is always safety-critical but > > > > never more so than in a competition with a demanding > > > > landing task, like US Thermal Duration. > > > > > > > > The Futaba 9CA has a butterfly (crow) mix hard-wired > > > > to switch A and three flight mode mixes hard-wired to > > > > switch G. > > > > > > > > The 9C's butterfly function on switch A cannot be used > > > > to define a landing mode because its effects are > > > > additive to whatever may have been selected on switch > > > > G flight mode. Anyone who has tried landing like this > > > > will have found the results too unpredictable to be > > > > safe under any pressure. > > > > > > > > So try thinking out of the box: maybe I can manage > > > > with 3 flight modes and Start mode could be adapted to > > > > a landing mode? If you try to program a landing mode > > > > into one of the three modes on switch G you find that > > > > these are predefined mixes and will not accept input > > > > from the Throttle/Airbrake stick or another mix which > > > > could define the offset you need in order to be able > > > > to start the butterfly/crow from zero on a slider. > > > > It is therefore not possible to use the available > > > > mixes to mimic butterfly/crow on one of the three > > > > modes on switch G. > > > > > > > > Incredibly, I find the 9C to be less functional than > > > > my old 7UAF which does allow butterfly crow to be > > > > programmed on its 3-position flight mode switch. I > > > > have campaigned my old 7UAF in the ESL for the last > > > > three years with some success and I thought I deserved > > > > an upgrade. However, as a sailplane transmitter, the > > > > Futaba 9C is a disaster. > > > > > > > > Jeb. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > > > > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. > > Send "subscribe" > > > and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note > that > > > subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only > format > > with > > > MIME turned off. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "JEREMY BUSHELL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "RCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 7:27 AM > > > Subject: [RCSE] Futaba 9C Is A Disaster For Sailplanes > > > > > > > > > > Landing a sailplane is always safety-critical but > > > > never more so than in a competition with a demanding > > > > landing task, like US Thermal Duration. > > > > > > > > The Futaba 9CA has a butterfly (crow) mix hard-wired > > > > to switch A and three flight mode mixes hard-wired to > > > > switch G. > > > > > > > > The 9C's butterfly function on switch A cannot be used > > > > to define a landing mode because its effects are > > > > additive to whatever may have been selected on switch > > > > G flight mode. Anyone who has tried landing like this > > > > will have found the results too unpredictable to be > > > > safe under any pressure. > > > > > > > > So try thinking out of the box: maybe I can manage > > > > with 3 flight modes and Start mode could be adapted to > > > > a landing mode? If you try to program a landing mode > > > > into one of the three modes on switch G you find that > > > > these are predefined mixes and will not accept input > > > > from the Throttle/Airbrake stick or another mix which > > > > could define the offset you need in order to be able > > > > to start the butterfly/crow from zero on a slider. > > > > It is therefore not possible to use the available > > > > mixes to mimic butterfly/crow on one of the three > > > > modes on switch G. > > > > > > > > Incredibly, I find the 9C to be less functional than > > > > my old 7UAF which does allow butterfly crow to be > > > > programmed on its 3-position flight mode switch. I > > > > have campaigned my old 7UAF in the ESL for the last > > > > three years with some success and I thought I deserved > > > > an upgrade. However, as a sailplane transmitter, the > > > > Futaba 9C is a disaster. > > > > > > > > Jeb. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! 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