Greetings,
I have received a few inquires about my up coming (now in the planning
stage) 2004 Wood Crafters SOAR NATS, an all out competition event for
woodys and how it will compare to the Nostalgia events that have been flown
in the past. So maybe this is the time and place to explain what I'm
attempting to accomplish.
1. I may not call it the Wood Crafters SOAR NATS, because the majority of
today's flyers didn't participate in those early years contests. This
revelation was made clear to me this past weekend under the tents during the
rain showers. This 2 day contest will NOT be run as part of the regular
Wood Crafters Soar In Reunion.
2. The event will have a simple qualifying rule of a built up woody with or
without a glass fuse.
3. It will probably have 5 classes to fly in:
A. Rudder - Elevator, 100" or under.
B. Rudder - Elevator - Spoiler, 100" or under.
C. Rudder - Elevator - Spoiler, 100" or over.
D. Unlimited number of controls and span.
E. Unlimited Scale. Gordon Pearson's Rules. Launch by aero tow or
electric winch or Hi Start.
Special Awards for: BEST NEW DESIGN, BEST SCALE ( both voted by
participants).
HIGH SCORE FOR WINDFREES, OLY ll, VIKING MK
l or MK ll.
Trophies to Third Place in each of the five classes plus Overall Grand
Champion to fifth place.
4. Enter any number of the above classes (all on the same frequency).
5. One entry per frequency for all events with NO "Team Entry" as we have
in the WC Soar In Reunion.
6. I am as eager to see old designs fly in this event as I am to see new
designs.
7. Wood Crafter participants have first right of refusal to the frequency
they used in 2003.
8. Location of this event will be determined in December, 2003.
It is all about having fun for those that enjoy building and flying WOODYS.
Ray Hayes
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Womack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jack Iafret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Legionair Questions
> Actually, I think you are stating what the rules say
> to you...that interpretation thing just keeps popping
> up.
>
> Jack Womack
> --- Jack Iafret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ed, I am merely stating what is in the rules. I feel
> > that is my job as the
> > high paid "Keeper" and I am sorry you think that is
> > silly. Your
> > interpretation of the rules does not matter at this
> > point, only the Contest
> > Directors who use the rules. If you are the CD, make
> > the announcement that
> > this is an allowed deviation from the rules that you
> > accept. They are not
> > AMA rules so no letter of exception to the rules
> > needs to made to AMA (which
> > would be the case in an AMA managed contest).
> >
> > Build anything you want, have fun and if the CD does
> > not object you would
> > have no problem unless a fellow contestant files a
> > protest that the plane is
> > illegal. I don't know if you are a contest flyer or
> > not but if you win a
> > contest and get protested, it is not a fun thing.
> >
> > Trying to write a set of rules that takes into
> > consideration all future
> > deviations to someone's design maybe a little tough,
> > but if you think you
> > can do it, have at it.
> >
> > I am merely stating what the rules say, nothing
> > else.
> >
> > Jack Iafret
> > "Keeper of the Nostalgia Rules"
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ed Berris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Jack Womack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 5:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [RCSE] Legionair Questions
> >
> >
> > > The idea that rules for Nostalgia class would be
> > enforced at the level
> > that
> > > Jack Iafret states seems quite silly. Isn't the
> > idea of a Nostalgia class
> > > to bring fun to those fliers that appreciate the
> > older STYLED aircraft and
> > > like a more relaxed flying experience?
> > >
> > > It seems that all hobbies have those that like
> > making and enforcing rules
> > > just a little too much. What possible difference
> > could a boom made from
> > > aluminum, fiberglass or carbon make.
> > >
> > > I remember going to a vintage car club meeting
> > where photos of beautifully
> > > restored cars were being shown. There was a small
> > group of members who
> > were
> > > critical of a particular car because the bolts
> > used under the hood were
> > not
> > > the exact ones used in the year that car was
> > produced. Another car was
> > down
> > > graded by these same fellows because the color of
> > the car was slightly off
> > > from the color charts for that year.
> > >
> > > I remember thinking these guys are way too
> > serious. Here were these
> > > beautiful 1930's vintage cars and instead of
> > appreciating seeing them
> > > restored and being driven they were put off by
> > these small "inaccuracies".
> > >
> > > Jack, you may be the keeper of the rules but I
> > have a feeling that some
> > day
> > > someone might just tell you to keep your set of
> > rules. Frame them, have
> > > them embroidered on your pillow case or have the
> > rules painted on your
> > > walls. But for me and a lot of other guys like me
> > we'll build the
> > > re-introduced Legionair and other designs with
> > some updates that make a
> > > great model even better. We'll have our own
> > NOSTALGIA class. After all
> > > Jack, the idea is to have fun. Right?
> > > Ed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jack Womack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 4:07 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [RCSE] Legionair Questions
> > >
> > >
> > > > I guess as a CD, those written rules are there
> > for
> > > > interpretation. The way I interpret them, the
> > carbon
> > > > boom would be no different than adding carbon to
> > a
> > > > spar, or replacing the spar system, or changing
> > the
> > > > joiner system and subsequently having to change
> > the
> > > > dihedral angle. The spirit of these rules says
> > to me
> > > > that as long as the outline, airfoils, and basic
> > > > flavor of the aircraft aren't altered, that such
> > mods
> > > > are welcome. If it's that strict, why not just
> > make it
> > > > strictly as designed with absolutely no
> > structural
> > > > alterations allowed, and let it go at that. That
> > would
> > > > forgo any arguments...unless of course the model
> > is
> > > > covered in opaque Monokote... By the way, Texas
> > heat
> > > > isn't good for most epoxy systems, so my boom
> > would be
> > > > painted white. How would you know if it's carbon
> > or
> > > > aluminum?
> > > >
> > > > Jack Womack
> > > >
> > > > --- Jack Iafret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > For it to be truly Nostalgia legal the boom
> > would
> > > > > have to be the same as the
> > > > > original. The rules state that the basic
> > building
> > > > > materials must be same as
> > > > > the original.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jack Iafret
> > > > > "Keeper of the Nostalgia Rules"
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Wes Gibson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "RCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jack Womack"
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 12:25 AM
> > > > > Subject: [RCSE] Legionair Questions
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Jack,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for all the good information on the
> > > > > Legionair. I do have a few more
> > > > > > questions though. First you mentioned that
> > your
> > > > > 100 is a floater with
> > > > > > attitude. Could you please clarify what kind
> > of
> > > > > attitude this sailplane
> > > > > has?
> > > > > > Jim Early mentioned that the Legionair is
> > fast.
> > > > > Does it handle poorly at
> > > > > > slower airspeeds? I am also concerned about
> > the
> > > > > aluminum boom. Does this
> > > > > > boom hold up in rough landings? Would it be
> > better
> > > > > to go to a fiberglass
> > > > > or
> > > > > > carbon fiber boom? Lastly, is the Legionair
> > > > > nostalgia legal?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Right now, the Legionair is number one on my
> > list
> > > > > of possible kits to
> > > > > build
> > > > > > with the Viking coming in a very close
> > second. Do
> > > > > you have any idea when
> > > > > Ray
> > > > > > Hayes will have the Legionair ready for
> > release?
> > > > > This is a rather far
> > > > > > fetched question, but what would you expect
> > the
> > > > > kits to sale for?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wes Gibson
> > > > > > AMA #607029
> > > > > > LSF #7533
> > > > > >
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
>
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