The first time true thermal flying was actually accomplished,,, (many
envisioned it prior to the Wrights, think Icarus)was in the 1930's when
Wolf Hirth was slope soaring at Elmira NY (South mountain, not Harris
Hill)at an international soaring competition. He ventured out away from
the slope and expected to land at the airport below, when seemingly
miraculously he started ascending. The rest is history...
Certainly there were most likely simultaneous similar experiences around
the world, and it is difficult to be didactically sure about any
"firsts", but this one is in the books, for what it is worth.

The Wrights gave up on canards too late to do themselves any good, they
saw that conventional tailed craft were the immediate future after
stubbornly sticking to their design too long. Their contribution was
three axis control, and for that they should get the big credit. After
that, it was anyone's game, and history has proven that out. Advances in
technology always grow exponentially building on the research of
previous pioneers. The Wrights happened to be in the right spot in
history to get credit for inventing something that had been in existence
for many years, they made a pivotal improvement, and others that
followed superseded their accomplishments with innovations of their own.

JD

Endless Mountain Models
http://www.scalesoaring.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 2:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [RCSE] Wright Brothers on Thermal Soaring.

The Wright brothers not only started with slope soaring, they were aware
of
thermal soaring.  In an intervier in 1910, when ask what is the best
they
could do for the plain business man after an exhausting day downtown,
Orville answered, "If he didn't want to make a trip to any particular
place
he could fly up to a great height, shut off the motor and soar about on
ascending currents of air as the great birds do."  From an interview by
Kate Carew published in the January 1910 issue of the New York World.  

The complete interview can be found at www.wright-brothers.org.  There
is
also descriptions and photographs of all airplanes they build.  The
Wright
brothers gave up on canards after 1910 and also build  tractor airplanes
that looked like most other airplanes of the era.

Another interesting fact is that the army officer killed in the Ft.
Myers
crash was a member of Alexander Bell's  group that included Curtis and
others who were trying to get around the Wright brothers patent.

Chuck Anderson


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