On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 08:41:02AM -0700, Dave Brombaugh wrote:

| I spent the rest of the afternoon searching for it.  One thing I learned
| - a 3M plane is pretty big when it's nearby, but when it's potentially
| lost in a huge space, it suddenly seems awful tiny.

That's gotta hurt.  I feel for you ...

| I did have my name and address in the airplane, hopefully sometime as
| the season goes on, someone might give me a call and let me know they
| found it.

That's probably the best thing you can do.  Personally, I put them in
a few places on the plane, and make them waterproof just in case the
plane isn't found right away.
 
| This got me thinking - what kinds of recovery systems do you folks use
| in your airplanes (or, do you?)?

I put these in my planes -

   http://www.hobbico.com/accys/hcap0335.html

They're pretty loud if mounted properly (with the speaker open to the
outside), and will let you hear your plane from a hundred or so yards
away, maybe more if it's quiet.  And at $15 each (less in quantity) I
can easily put one in every plane.  I don't know if it would have
helped much in your situation (but it might have, if you'd happened to
get close to your plane while you were looking for it.)

If you've never had to find a plane lost in the trees, it's amazing
how easy it is to miss a plane that's only 10 yards away, over and
over and over.  Without the alarm, the alternative is to wiggle the
sticks and hope you can hear the servos, but that's only good for a
few feet at best.

| If I had some sort of transmitter in it, perhaps I would have had a
| chance at recovering it.  The ideal 'something' would be a 'thing'
| that would transmit its location.  The receiver would plug into a
| GPS, or into a laptop with a GPS, and be able to say "Bing - your
| plane is here (give or take 3 meters)."

Well, if you had any sort of telemetry at all, and it was still
functioning after the crash, you could use standard transmitter
location techniques (your local hams could help with that) to find it.
At least until the battery died.

They do sell transmitters meant for plane location, I see them
advertised in the AMA magazine every month, but they're mostly meant
for free flight planes and I don't know if you'd really want to use
them.  Basically they just consist of a transmitter and a receiver
with a directional antenna.

Does anybody sell something that has a GPS and transmits it's
coordinates?  It could certainly be done, though I'd personally rather
just spend my money on a telemetry transmitter of some sort (I'm
really tempted to.  Are there any out there that are relatively
inexpensive?) and make a directional antenna for my receiver `just in
case'.  Though I've never run into a case where my Hobbico Air Alerts
didn't let me find my lost planes pretty quickly.

| P.S.  (I've already said it)  - I really loved that airplane.  A 7037
| Compulsion is an excellent aircraft.

Good luck ... hopefully you'll get a phone call soon, from somebody
who found this glider that did a nice landing in their grassy field.

-- 
Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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