If you'd read past the first paragraph you'd probably see if for yourself: http://www.faa.gov/Newsroom/highlights/rnc_fa2.htm
Chime this, pal. Kevin At 10:11 PM 8/27/2004 -0400, Ben Diss wrote: >I have no idea where you got that. Here is the TFR in effect in the NYC area from >Aug 30 - Sep 1. Skip ahead to Part 5. It does mention model aircraft (I stand >corrected). However, if you READ IT, you'll see that it specifies very specific >areas that the restriction applies. You can't fly a model airplane into Newark at >ANY time. > >Again, the AMA is out of touch. > >BTW, I love how people chime in and are so eager to just roll over on this nonesense. > I own and operate a REAL aircraft out of Westchester. I work in a building ONE BLOCK >from where the RNC is being held. I live this crap every day. Now the AMA wants to >take away my toys too? > >-Ben > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >4/9053 ZNY PART 1 OF 6 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS NEW YORK METRO AREA, NY. EFFECTIVE FROM >0408301100 UTC (0700 LOCAL ON AUGUST 30, 2004) UNTIL 0409012259 UTC (1859 LOCAL ON >SEPTEMBER 1, 2004). PURSUANT TO TITLE 14 SECTION 91.141 CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATION >(CFR) ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN A 7 NMR OF 404501N/0735938W (LGA >VOR/DME 263 RADIAL 6 NM FIX), FROM THE SURFACE UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180, >EXCLUDING A 2 NMR OF 405055N/0740344W (TEB VOR/DME), AT AND BELOW 2000 FEET MSL, >EXCEPT AS DESCRIBED IN PART A BELOW. EFFECTIVE FROM 0408301100 UTC (0700 LOCAL ON >AUGUST 30, 2004) UNTIL 0409012259 (1859 LOCAL ON SEPTEMBER 1, 2004), ALL AIRCRAFT >OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN NEW YORK CLASS B AIRSPACE, FROM THE SURFACE, UP TO >BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180, EXCEPT AS DESCRIBED IN PART B. BELOW. THIS AREA IS DEPICTED >ON THE AREA DEFINED BY THE NEW YORK VFR TERMINAL AREA CHART, AS THE CLASS B AIRSPACE >LGA 20 NM, JFK 20 NM, AND EWR 20 NM BOUNDARIES. THE AIRSPACE WITHIN A 3 NMR OF >404400N/0732330W (DPK VOR/DME 241 RADIAL 5 NM FIX), AT AND BELOW 2000 FEET MSL AND >THE AIRSPACE WITHIN A 3 NMR OF 410500N/0734125W (CMK VOR/DME 215 RADIAL 13 NM FIX), >AT AND BELOW 2000 FEET MSL, IS EXCLUDED FOR ARRIVALS AND DEPARTURES ONLY TO/FROM >FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC, NY (FRG) AND WESTCHESTER COUNTY, NY (HPN) AIRPORTS. END PART 1 >OF 6 > >PART 2 OF 6 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS NEW YORK METRO AREA, PART A. INNER AREA ALL AIRCRAFT >OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN A 7 NMR OF 404501N/0735938W (LGA VOR/DME 263 RADIAL >6 NM FIX), FROM THE SURFACE, UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180, EXCEPT FOR THE FOLLOWING >OPERATIONS AND AS DESCRIBED BELOW: 1. LAW ENFORCEMENT AND MILITARY AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY >SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE (USSS), PRECOORDINATED EMERGENCY MEDICAL >FLIGHTS AND OTHER OPERATIONS APPROVED BY THE USSS. REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL >PASSENGER AIRCRAFT OPERATING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR APPROVED TRANSPORTATION >SECURITY ADMINISTRATION (TSA) SECURITY PROGRAM AND CARGO AIRCRAFT THAT MEET OR EXCEED >THE TSA(S) DOMESTIC SECURITY INTEGRATION PROGRAM (DSIP) OR ITS EQUIVLENT AND ARE >ARRIVING INTO AND/OR ARE DEPARTING FROM LGA, EWR, AND JFK. 2. ONLY ESTABLISHED >SIGHTSEEING VFR HELICOPTER OPERATIONS ARRIVING AND DEPARTING THE WEST 30TH STREET >(JRA) AND PORT AUTHORITY-DOWNTOWN-MANHATTAN/WALL STREET (JRB) HELIPORTS THAT HAVE >BEEN TSA SECURITY SCREENED AT A GATEWAY AIRPORT, BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 1100 UTC UNTIL >2300 UTC (0700 LOCAL-1900 LOCAL). OVERFLIGHTS OF MANHATTAN ARE NOT PERMITTED. 3. ALL >EMERGENCY MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATIONS SHALL BE COORDINATED END PART 2 OF 6 > >PART 3 OF 6 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS NEW YORK METRO AREA. IN ADVANCE WITH THE FAA >SUPERVISOR AT THE NEW YORK TRACON, AT 516-683-2984 TO AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS. 4. ALL >AIRCRAFT SHALL SQUAWK A DISCRETE TRANSPONDER CODE ASSIGNED BY ATC. ALL AIRCRAFT SHALL >SQUAWK THE DISCRETE TRANSPONDER CODE PRIOR TO DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WITHIN THE >TFR. IN THE EVENT OF A TRANSPONDER FAILURE, THE PILOT SHALL ADVISE ATC AND ATC WILL >PROVIDE THE MOST DIRECT COURSE TO OUTSIDE THE LATERAL LIMITS OF THE TFR. 5. ALL >AIRCRAFT MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH ATC. PART B. OUTER AREA >PROCEDURES FOR AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE NY CLASS B TFR FROM 7 NMR TO THE CLASS B >20 NM BOUNDARY, FROM THE SURFACE, UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180, ARE LISTED BELOW: 1. >FIXED WING AIRCRAFT SHALL BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR VFR FLIGHT PLAN FILED WITH AN AFSS. >2. ALL AIRCRAFT SHALL SQUAWK A DISCRETE TRANSPONDER CODE ASSIGNED BY ATC. ALL >AIRCRAFT SHALL SQUAWK THE DISCRETE TRANSPONDER CODE PRIOR TO DEPARTURE AND AT ALL >TIMES WITHIN THE TFR. IN THE EVENT OF A TRANSPONDER FAILURE, THE PILOT SHALL ADVISE >ATC AND ATC WILL PROVIDE THE MOST DIRECT COURSE TO OUTSIDE THE LATERAL LIMITS OF END >PART 3 OF 6 > >PART 4 OF 6 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS NEW YORK METRO AREA. THE TFR. 3. ALL AIRCRAFT MUST >REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH ATC. 4. FIXED WING OPERATIONS ARE LIMITED >TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR DEPARTING LOCAL AIRFIELDS. AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. 5. >HELICOPTER OPERATIONS ARE PERMITTED TO LAND AND DEPART LOCAL AIRFIELDS AND TRANSIT >THE AIRSPACE FROM 7 NMR TO THE CLASS B 20 NM BOUNDARY PROVIDED PILOTS COMPLY WITH >PART B, 2, AND 3, ABOVE. HELICOPTERS MAY NOT LOITER. 6. ALL EMERGENCY MEDICAL FLIGHT >OPERATIONS SHALL BE COORDINATED IN ADVANCE WITH THE FAA SUPERVISOR AT THE NEW YORK >TRACON, AT 516- 683-2984, TO AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS. PART C. THE FOLLOWING >AERONAUTICAL OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED WITHIN THE NEW YORK CLASS B AIRSPACE LGA >20 NM, JFK 20 NM, AND EWR 20 NM BOUNDARIES, FROM THE SURFACE, UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING >FL180: FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER >OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BALLOON OPERATIONS, >AGRICULTURE/CROP DUSTING, FISH SPOTTERS, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT OPERATIONS, >BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, UTILITY LINE/PIPELINE INSPECTION FLIGHTS, END PART 4 OF 6 > >PART 5 OF 6 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS NEW YORK METRO AREA. PART 101 OPERATIONS, MODEL >AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS, MODEL ROCKETRY, REMOTELY OPERATED AIRCRAFT, UNMANNED AERIAL >VEHICLES AND, COMMERCIAL CARGO CARRIER OPERATIONS THAT FAIL TO MEET OR EXCEED THEIR >TSA APPROVED SECURITY PROGRAM OR ITS EQUIVALENT PART D. GATEWAY AIRPORTS HAVE BEEN >CREATED AT REPUBLIC AIRPORT, NY (FRG) AND MORRISTOWN AIRPORT, NJ (MMU) BY FAA, TSA >AND USSS TO ACCOMMODATE SIGHTSEEING HELICOPTERS ARRIVING AND DEPARTING JRA, JRB AND >VFR FIXED WING SEAPLANE OPERATIONS ARRIVING AND DEPARTING 6N7. SPECIAL ATC PROCEDURES >AND ROUTES TO AND FROM THESE AIRPORTS WILL BE ASSIGNED PRIOR TO DEPARTURE FROM A >GATEWAY AIRPORT. INTERMEDIATE STOPS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED UNLESS AN EMERGENCY EXISTS. >PART E. PREASSIGNED BEACON CODES, ISSUED BY THE NEW YORK TRACON, ARE SUSPENDED WITHIN >7 NMR OF 404501N/0735938W (LGA VOR/DME 263 RADIAL 6 NM FIX), FROM THE SURFACE, UP TO >BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180, FOR THE DURATION OF THIS TFR, EXCEPT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND >MILITARY AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE (USSS). PART >F. SPECIAL SECURITY PROCEDURES, TO INCLUDE PASSENGER, BAGGAGE, CARGO AND AIRCRAFT >SCREENING, WILL BE IMPLEMENTED AT TETERBORO AIRPORT (TEB) DURING THE REPUBLICAN >NATIONAL CONVENTION. END PART 5 OF 6 > >PART 6 OF 6 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS NEW YORK METRO AREA. PART G. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT >ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR >TO OPERATING WITHIN THIS AREA. END PART 6 OF 6 [See graphic.] > > > >Kevin Sheen wrote: > >>Really?? >>Other Unauthorized Operations: The following aeronautical operations are not >>authorized within the New York Class B Airspace LGA 20 NM, JFK 20 NM, and EWR 20 NM >>boundaries, up to but not including FL 180: flight training, practice instrument >>approaches, aerobatic flight, glider operations, parachute operations, ultralight, >>hang gliding, balloon operations, agriculture/crop dusting, fish spotters, animal >>population control flight operations, banner towing operations, utility >>line/pipeline inspection flights, Part 101 operations, model aircraft operations, >>model rocketry, remotely operated aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles and commercial >>cargo carrier operations that fail to comply with their TSA approved security >>program. >> >> >>Kevin >> >>At 08:18 PM 8/27/2004 -0400, you wrote: >> >>>Wow. Once again AMA hasn't a clue. This TFR DOES NOT restrict model airplane >>>flying. It doesn't even mentioni t. >>> >>>-Ben >>> >>>Steve Siebenaler wrote: >>> >>>>Posted today on the AMA Web Site... >>>>Notice to AMA members, especially those residing or operating their model aircraft >>>>within 20 Nautical Miles (NM) of JFK, La Guardia, and Newark airports. >>>>The Federal Aviation Administration has established Temporary Flight Restrictions >>>>(TFR) for the areas mentioned above. There will be no model aircraft operations >>>>allowed to take place within these restricted areas. >>>>This TFR will begin at 7:00 p.m. local time on September 1, 2004, and continue to >>>>6:59 am local time on September 3, 2004. >>>> >>>>We are sharing this information for the purpose of advising our members of the >>>>serious nature of this TFR and urging all to cooperate by abiding by the rules as >>>>stated. >>>>For a complete description off the TFR click >>>>www.faa.gov/Newsroom/highlights/rnc_fa.htm >>>><http://www.faa.gov/Newsroom/highlights/rnc_fa.htm> >>>><http://www.faa.gov/Newsroom/highlights/rnc_fa.htm> >>>>We strongly encourage all members to be cooperative and understanding these times >>>>of special national security concerns and as always, if you should have additional >>>>questions please contact Jay Mealy. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>>>Steve Siebenaler >>>>Cincinnati, Ohio USA >>> >>> >>>RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. 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