Dose anyone know if Hoopes Design is still offering
its harnesses and advice,comments. 
Lift,
chris
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>       1. RE: [RCSE] Escape Tip Aileron Mod
>            From: David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       2. RE: [RCSE] R and R, not RnR
>            From: "Sheldon - YNT uDesign"
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>       3. RE: [RCSE] Old LSF guys.
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>       4. [RCSE] hi starts and more!
>            From: Cheryl and Bill
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>       5. RE: [RCSE] Escape Tip Aileron Mod
>            From: "George Voss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       6. Fw: [RCSE] Old LSF guys.
>            From: "Harley Michaelis"
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>       7. [RCSE]
>            From: "James V. Bacus"
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>       8. [RCSE] Re:Escape Tip Aileron Mod
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>       9. [RCSE] Next seasons post flying beverage
>            From: "James V. Bacus"
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>      10. [RCSE] Amazing
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>      11. RE: [RCSE] R and R, not RnR
>            From: "Dr. Danny C Williams"
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>      12. Re: [RCSE] Amazing
>            From: Steve Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      13. RE: [RCSE] R and R, not RnR
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>      14. [RCSE] Re: Amazing
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>      15. [RCSE] Looking for SASS member
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>      17. [RCSE] Visalia CVRC news paper artical
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>      18. [Fwd: Re: [RCSE] Re: Amazing]
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>      19. [RCSE] CVRC Web Page Update!!
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>      20. Re: [Fwd: Re: [RCSE] Re: Amazing]
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>      21. RE: [RCSE] Launch height ..
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>      22. RE: [RCSE] Launch height ..
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>      23. Re: [RCSE] What do/would you pay?
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>      24. [RCSE] FS - Super Nova 250S Charger
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>      25. [RCSE] Re: respest
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>    Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:50:01 +1000
>    From: David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [RCSE] Escape Tip Aileron Mod
> 
> Hello
> 
> During the preparation for the 2004 F3J World Champs
> I purchased 3 Escapes. 
> Initially the wings were set up with the tip aileron
> servos, but after some 
> experimenting, all my Escapes have the outer aileron
> fixed. There was just 
> no perceivable difference in performance.
> 
> I firmly believe that competition thermal models
> must be simple, easy to 
> maintain and robust. The last problem you need is a
> unserviceable model in 
> a competition when there are plenty of other issues
> to concern ones self 
> with. 2 extra servos (especially small servos with
> fragile gears) are just 
> not worth the hassle.
> 
> The best way to become better in competition is to
> become comfortable with 
> the flying qualities of your chosen model and
> PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE. 
> Chasing the ultimate model will only give small
> gains. Most of the current 
> breed of competition models may have a performance
> difference of, lets say, 
> 3% between the worst and best. This difference can
> easily be narrowed with 
> one or two stalls during a flight.
> 
> Regards
> 
> David Hobby - 2004 F3J WC
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edmonds, Terry D
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> Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 2004 5:08 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      [RCSE] Escape Tip Aileron Mod
> 
> I have been flying Escapes for several years now and
> have V-tail,  X-tail 
> and electric versions. The Escape certainly is one
> of the top F3J and 
> unlimited models available today and the quality is
> second to none. The tip 
> ailerons are a bit of a complication with advanced
> programming required and 
> a little extra weight out on the wing tips. About a
> year ago I began 
> experimenting flying the models with the tip
> ailerons disabled. Careful 
> analysis revealed the tip ailerons really weren't
> doing that much. Roll 
> response in the landing configuration was a little
> better with the tip 
> ailerons activated but that could easily be
> compensated for with a tad more 
> throw and expo in the main aileron. So for the last
> year I have flying the 
> models with the tip ailerons taped shut and the
> servos removed.
> 
> 
> 
> At the 2004 F3J World Champs in Canada I noticed the
> Slovakian Team had 
> some Escapes with a link pin between the main and
> tip aileron and were not 
> using tip aileron servos. I had considered that idea
> before but didn't 
> think you could get a slop free connection because
> of the compound angle 
> the two ailerons work at. I inquired with the pilots
> about this and they 
> immediately went and got Jaro Muller (manufacture of
> Escapes) to show me 
> how to do it. I have since installed this mod in one
> of my Escapes and can 
> report it works perfectly and is slop free.
> 
> 
> 
> Here is how it is done. Pins are glued in place in
> the main aileron and 
> then left free to slide in and out of the tip
> aileron as the surfaces move 
> up and down. The pins are located mid chord of the
> ailerons. Make pins from 
> 3/64" music wire about ?" long. The tricky part is
> getting alignment of the 
> two holes so the ailerons line up properly. Drill
> the holes as nearly al  
> igned as you can but you probably will have to make
> them oversize at first. 
>  Glue the pin in the main aileron with epoxy and
> micro balloons straight 
> with the main aileron hinge line and projecting just
> enough so the pin can 
> engage the outer hole when the ailerons are flexed
> full down. You want the 
> pin to project as much as possible to avoid the
> ailerons from accidentally 
> disengaging. At this point the main and tip ailerons
> probably don't quite 
> line up so hog out the hole in the tip aileron in
> the correct direction. 
> Put a drop of oil on the pin and a dab of epoxy in
> the hole. Move the 
> aileron assembly to the full up position and tape
> them in alignment until 
> the epoxy has cured. That's all there is to it.
> 
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Tnx & 73
CHRIS
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