Who said anything about making it easier? I can land
with most competition pilots. I can certainly fly with
most competition pilosts. I don't want to make it
easier. I just want to de emphasize landings so that
someone can't make up 66 seconds like Tim Bennet
pointed out. I want to make it a soaring contest, and
again, just not the same old thing. I've been back in
the hobby 4 years and I'm already bored with the same
old thing. As I remember it, and as one that was
around in the early days of competition, landings were
added as tie breakers. Let's get back to that basic.
Let's have it there as a tie breaker, ONLY. If someone
doesn't outright win, check their landing scores. The
one with the most landing points wins and the other is
second. WHAT A CONCEPT!!! Then it's a soaring contest
that can't be won outright by making a bad flight
decision and making it up on landings. Don't tell me
it doesn't happen because I've been on both ends of
that one, winning and losing.

Some people just can't believe this comes up... The
rest of us just can't believe it has never been
changed. We're just as incredulous about this as you
are.

Jack Womack
--- Jeff Steifel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yep, people are leaving the hobby.
> The numbers are down for golf too.
> Does making the task easier keep the attraction? NO
> Make things too easy and people lose interest as
> well.
> People will lose interest because they want instant
> gratification.
> 
> You want to eliminate the landing or minimize it and
> have fun???? FLY F3B!!!
> It has a landing that is 100 points for a 1 meter
> radius, and drops by 5 
> for every meter.
> So you can get some points without having to dork
> it. Landing is only 
> important during TD portion and isn't present in
> speed or distance.
> 
> You want more fun? Fly XCountry.... F3J, combat,
> Slope race. Each of 
> those disciplines mentioned will get the adrenaline
> pumped.  But please 
> don't tell me that the landing task makes it boring
> (because it is the 
> same old thing) Removing the landing task will do
> nothing to add to the 
> excitement. The top pilots will make their times, so
> it certainly is not 
> boring to add landings. Besides ever watch some out
> of control 
> landing???? It's not boring.... 8>)
> 
> Jack Womack wrote:
> 
> >Have a CD license, run large contests, etc... I
> know
> >what they are like. I also know that we have folks
> >that are stone cold bored with the same old thing.
> >Like someone else posted, this has been this way
> since
> >1971 or longer. I left this hobby from shear
> boredom
> >in 1980 and just came back 4 years ago to guess
> >what... the same old thing... It still boils down
> to
> >this: If you want to run a contest, you set the
> task.
> >If it's the same old thing and you have no turn out
> or
> >a great turn out, it's still the same old thing. If
> >the task is published ahead of time, and it's the
> same
> >old thing, I may come but I may find something else
> to
> >do. If it's something different that peaks my
> >interest, I'll probably break my neck to get there,
> >just to see if it works.
> >
> >Jack Womack
> >
> >
> >--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Chuck, once again experience speaks loud and
> clear.
> >>
> >> Let those who have better ideas step up to the
> >>pump, get their CD license, 
> >>and run some serious contests, like the Soaring
> >>Nats, the Southwest Classic, 
> >>etc, try these new ideas and find out what the
> >>contestants really like and what 
> >>really works, and then if they still like their
> new
> >>landing or not landing 
> >>schemes, get involved in a rules change.
> >>
> >>Just stop whining and get on with life.
> >>
> >>Regards, Dave Corven, 
> >>AMA 878, LSF254 and damn near Level 5. 
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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