I gave up on UPS several years ago, damage rate was extremely high and their
claims department must be on a commission based on claims money not paid.
I use Fed Ex Ground Service because it costs less and damage to my kit boxes
is basically NONE.  I have seen foot prints on boxes shipped by UPS.

The difference in DAMAGE RATE  is ATTITUDE.

The Postal Service is on the same par as UPS, high prices, damaged shipments
and poor claims payment.
I can't understand why so many ebay sellers use the US Postal Service to
ship boxes.

Ray Hayes
http://www.skybench.com
Home of Wood Crafters
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Derstine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Phil Barnes'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'RCSE'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 6:59 AM
Subject: RE: [RCSE] shipping


> I concur:
> After using UPS exclusively for a few years, I now use FED EX ground
> almost exclusively for what I call small stuff, and FED EX express saver
> for larger sailplanes that don't require me to use airfreight service.
> What I have found in shipping via any shipper is that the human on the
> customer service end to a large part, determines the rate you pay. This
> is somewhat true with FED EX in my experience, and especially true with
> airfreight where I save up to $100.00 dollars per shipment because the
> freight agent likes me and takes off all the bogus "extras" that I could
> be paying.
> I always ask for a quote before shipping at either place or a written
> copy of the transaction.
>
> JD
>
> Endless Mountain Models
> http://www.scalesoaring.com
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 6:54 PM
> To: 'RCSE'
> Subject: RE: [RCSE] shipping
>
> I used to ship everything via UPS ground. After they computerized their
> shipping outlets, two things happened: First, every package got charged
> for
> the full rate including oversize rates,
>
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