Well I have to chime in here... First you can get the Hoopes connectors with the DB-15 or the other black connector. Dammit Jim I am a Doctor not an electrician, and can not think of the names of the black plugs Tom uses right now......lol
As to the "New" Wiring harness I will NEVER order another Icon again with that POS harness in it I will only get it with the Hoopes or an equivalent. Here's is my reason. I have a Few Icons all with the Hoopes connectors ( and a few other birds...lol) and never had a failure due to the connectors in over 1000 hours of flying my Icons, now brain fade that is a another thread unto it's self. But when I got my newest Icon (pre NATS) with that P.O.S. new harness read that as a Non-Hoopes. I had two failures in the first two day's of flying. Compared to the Hoopes the quality of this new harness is terrible .... Don what in the He.. were you thinking. I ended up tearing out that "new" harness with the third failure. I have heard of two others with Icons doing the same, but I do not remember who they were. I guess I got use to Millspeck quality. So if you order a Icon make sure you get the Hoopes with the DB-15 not the "new" wire set. Dr. Danny Williams Soon to be the X,President of Rocky Mountain Soaring Association Denver, CO http://www.rmsadenver.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:58:04 -0600 From: "James V. Bacus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: RCSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [RCSE] RE: Hoopes wiring harness, ... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Uh, the new ones with the DB-15 computer monitor connectors are not Hoopes connectors. I have ICON's with both styles, I have not flown the new one yet. The apparent difference here is the center panel now plugs into the fuse and makes connection, the old style you connected the connectors, stuffed them and the wires in the fuse, and bolted the center panel on. I don't like to change things that work well, but this is the way the ICON is delivered now days. Bad thing here is I can't field swap ICON parts in the field with this new connector, so that wing is now for that fuse only. And with my last ICON I also took delivery of a new molded Image (ya, not an ICON 2m but it is painted to look like my ICON's), believe it or not, it came with a Hoopes connector. At 06:28 PM 11/22/2004, Barry Andersen wrote: >I have one of the first new connector fitted Icon's. Mine has worked >flawlessly and I enjoy the "plug and play". Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537 LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net ----------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:06:19 -0500 From: Barry Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "James V. Bacus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: RCSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [RCSE] RE: Hoopes wiring harness, ... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yep, I know that, I wasn't clear in my post. The new Van Leeuwen connector has served me well; flown at this year's NATS and many times since. I was trying to point out, that I agree that Tom makes fine connectors; also the new Van Leeuwen connector has worked fine for me. It is possible that both these connectors are fine products. Barry RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.

