From: Dean Gradwell xcsoaringcom [EMAIL PROTECTED] For RC cross country soaring I use the Garmin Etrex Vista GPS in the glider. It weighs 5 oz. and sells for around $300. This is the only Etrex model that will work for what we do. It fits easily in the SBXC or scale ship but would not work in a TD glider. The software that John mentions is called See You www.seeyou.ws It was developed for full size sailplanes. We use a Cambridge GPS/NAV system in our full scale gliders and after a flight we download to a laptop to verify turnpoints and check various phases of the flight. It has turned out to be just as much fun to do this on a RC cross country flight. You can actually see your flight in 3d. Our website www.xcsoaring.com has a flight that John Ellias flew at a Montague contest. If that flight was on your computer you could zoom in and see each circle of the glider. You will be able to see your speed, altitude, rate of climb or decent etc. Keep in mind this is done after the flight and not real time. I have both the RCATS and Eagle Tree telemetry to expeirment with. All I
wanted to check was airspeed. The Skymelody/Skypanel tells me everything else. Unfortunately they both require you look at a screen which means taking your eye off the model. This will not work for me. I think the next generation vario should as selected by a switch or slider give you airspeed with a voice telling you your airspeed in numbers. The Skymelody/Skypanel is a great vario with my favorite feature being rate of climb The way I would program my Skypanel if it had airspeed would be this way. Center position vario tone only, top position rate of climb reporting every 20 seconds, bottom position airspeed reporting every 20 seconds. I would thermal in the center or top position and cruise between thermals in the bottom position. Both Skymelody and Picolario have promised us airspeed for years. It's just a matter of time. Regards Dean Gradwell ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Derstine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Lighthorse'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'RegDaveaolcom'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 6:55 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Re: Onboard GPS? > What Ken says includes the Sky Melody plus the Sky Panel Data Logger and > separate altitude sensor. There are several additional ports on the Sky > Panel to hook up switch monitors. I have not tried this for lack of time > or need, but you could if your capable, make leads to tell if a given > micro switch is in the on or off position. Retact doors, up and go lock > up or down come to mind. > > Dean Gradwell showed me a software program, I forget the name, That > allowed use of a Garmin with a three D photo realistic playback on a > laptop, of the flight including waypoints, altitude distance etc. > Virtually the same tools are available to modelers as the full scale > guys. The stuff is not that expensive to the serious XC or scale guy, > and the potential for use in scale XC is very exciting. I can envision > Scale Cross country teams sharing the cost of a ship and it's avionics > to compete. In full scale the cost of avionics can be a considerable > portion of a planes cost. It is no different in models. > JD > > Endless Mountain Models > http://www.scalesoaring.com > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lighthorse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 12:02 AM >> To: RegDaveaolcom >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Onboard GPS? >> >> For the 3d put a geco gps in the plane and set it to track: >> go here for more info >> > http://jeklink.net/projects/GPS_Equipped_Radio_Controlled_Sailplane.html >> when I launch my large scale I have the Skymelody Variometer and the >> Garmon Geco in the cocpit. >> >> >> > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" > and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note > that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format > with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and > AOL are generally NOT in text format > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 1/28/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 1/28/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format

