I tend to disagree Tom. It is the lawyers that go chasing some of these cases. They claim you can get what is rightfully yours... Look how many lawyers are sending clients to doctors that will certify permanent injuries that certainly don't exist. There are so many knockdown attorneys now. Now back to the other lowyers... (spelling no making a point) They love to sniff a class action lawsuit... the ones where most everyone gets nothing and they make a killing. I have been in quite a few of these. Even though the company supposedly made hundreds off me illegally I get a coupon for $$$ off of future services.... I was no longer interested in doing business with the company so I never got paid back for the lost money.. but the lowyers made out very well. For a TV that was designed to fail.... and cost me $170 to repair each time... all it needed was a heat sink but RCA refused to add it to the design even after an engineer found that adding the heat sink would prevent the overheating a prevent the failure... So 3 times I fixed it... what did I get... a coupon for $50 off my next RCA TV... I'll never buy another RCA again. They didn't even pay for the repairs... The lowyers got paid millions. ATT .... that class action from my cell phone netted me a $20 coupon for future calls. After I dropped my service to ATT... Of course the loss was greater to me... I don't understand class action lawsuits. Apparently the companies really don't reimburse you for the full theft, or damages... but the lowyers make out great....

No you guys deserve much of the bad feelings many of us harbor against you. And no it isn't all of you... but quite truthfully its hard to tell the good from the bad. Some of you do so much harm ... Its no wonder why so many of our politicians start out as lawyers.... Power hungry... and going to feed their pockets at the trough.

Flame shields on... This isn't meant as  a personal attack Tom.

Tom H. Nagel wrote:

Actually, Ed, and fellow flyers,  it is not the evil lawyers doing this.  It
is the evil bean counters and the corporate dilberts who seek to maximize
profit at any expense.

A certain linguistically challenged President is also currently
attacking lawyers accusing them (us) of junk lawsuits and causing a
malpractice insurance crisis. Wrong again. Same real bad guys, the bean
counters and the corporate bandits.
Tom H. Nagel
Columbus, OH
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Berris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>; "Jack Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 3:47 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Lawyers are killing the kit business





I found this article on www.instapundit.com.  It tells what lawyers are
doing that can hurt small model makers.

Don Stackhouse already found out first hand what the impact of these
"shakedown lawsuits) are all about but I thought you all might want to


read


this.  Here it is:


"Lawyers Lay Waste to Military Models Industry by James Dunnigan February 3, 2005 Discussion Board on this DLS topic

For over half a century, kits have been sold that enable military history
buffs to assemble scale models of military ships, aircraft and vehicles.


But


that era is coming to an end, as the manufacturers of the original
equipment, especially aircraft, are demanding high royalties (up to $40


per


kit) from the kit makers. Since most of these kits sell in small


quantities


(10-20,000) and are priced at $15-30 (for plastic kits, wooden ones are
about twice as much), tacking on the royalty just prices the kit out of


the


market. Popular land vehicles, which would sell a lot of kits, are missing
as well. The new U.S. Army Stryker armored vehicles are not available
because of royalty requirements. Even World War II aircraft kits are being
hit with royalty demands.

These royalty demands grew out of the idea that corporations should


maximize


"intellectual property" income. Models of a companys products are


considered


the intellectual property of the owner of a vehicle design. Some
intellectual property lawyers have pointed out that many of these demands
are on weak legal ground, but the kit manufacturers are often small
companies that cannot afford years of litigation to settle this


contention.


In the past, the model kits were considered free advertising, and good
public relations, by the defense firms. The kit manufacturers comprise a
small industry, and the aircraft manufacturers will probably not even


notice


if they put many of the model vendors out of business. Some model


companies


will survive by only selling models of older (like World War I), or
otherwise "no royalty" items (Nazi German aircraft) and ships. But the
aircraft were always the bulk of sales, and their loss will cripple many


of


the kit makers. Some of the vehicle manufacturers have noted the problem,
and have lowered their demands to a more reasonable level (a few percent


of


the wholesale price of the kits)."

I guess model kit makers will have to rename their models to avoid these
bottom feeding lawyers.

Ed




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