>Tord Eriksson wrote:

"In my younger years I worked at a famous
design department and I assure you that
copying goes on all the time."

Its a normal design tool. One of my first electronics textbooks talked about it 
as the primary design tool -- they actually used the word plagurism in a 
tounge-in-cheek context. They said that as this was a textbook the student was 
expected to do everything from first principles but this wasn't how things were 
done in real life.

When the Russians stole the general arrangement plans
of the Concorde....

A more charitable interpretation of this is that both the Russian and the English/French 
teams had similar problems to solve with similar tools so they came up with similar 
solutions. The legacy of the Cold War is such that we refuse to admit that the Russians 
had any signifcant technical capability -- "they must have stolen it" -- but 
there's ample evidence to the contrary.

There's a widely held misunderstanding about what's actually invovled in creating things 
that's causing inflated expectations about what an idea is and how much its worth. 
Changes in patent and copyright law have reinforced this, those changes being institued 
because they suit corporate interests (IMO). Creating the "form" is often the 
easy bit. Getting the form into a realizable state, getting it manufactured, getting it 
marketed and delivered to willing customers and supporting it is where the work is. We're 
getting lazy -- we expect others to do this for us for peanuts so we can profit from our 
genius, complaining loudly to all when people cut us out as unnecessary (you could call 
it the real hidden danger in outsourcing!).

Martin Usher

BTW -- LM and the companies that they sold the design "rights" to are cheeky. 
We (the taxpayer) have already paid them for this work. The problem isn't really LM, its 
the companies that bought the rights with the expectation of profiting from 
sub-licencing. Its our duty to make this business unprofitable otherwise we're be 
spending the rest of time fighing off parasitic protection rackets.


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