No "hopes" required John...rigorous range testing will show whether there is any shortcomings when operating multiple RX's. It's as simple as operating one RX at a time under similar test conditions I just eluded to, then the other RX, then both simultaneously. If there are issues...they will show.

I forgot to add in my previous post a very important detail, when attempting to tune a RX antenna, or look for "any" anomolies it pays to have some sort of a baseline.

To achieve this requires setting the RX up as if it was in an aircraft that has no RF issues (like carbon). What you want is to determine how many feet you can achieve under ideal conditions. With this information, deciding what you will accept as a result of degradation due to things like carbon become much clearer....

John Derstine wrote:

I have also heard of other approaches including de tuning one rx
slightly from the other, the bottom line is who wants to do that, or
wrap your rx in the hopes that it works? I do know some TOC level pilots
who still choose to use two rx's in their planes but three or four? Is
this feasible?

JD

Endless Mountain Models
http://www.scalesoaring.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Van Leeuwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 6:20 PM
To: John Derstine
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Dave Register'; [email protected];

'Gordy

Stahl'; 'Barry Kennedy'
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #5375 - Shadow 3

The problem on dual RX setups is not the antennas, but co-interference
between the IF's within each of the RX's. This is what reduces
sensitivity. This problem is solved easily by shielding one or both

RX's.

The shielding can be as simple as a 6" x 6" conductive plate that is
strategically place between the two RX's, or could mean literally
wrapping one RX with a highly conductive shielding material (eg:
permeable copper).

John Derstine wrote:


Just a cheap shot, could not resist, blame Gordy for his endless
overstated hype about everything and anything.

Anything good, and I assume the Shadow is, will out perform a Hitec

or

FMA rx, apples to oranges indeed. That was the point of my comment

not

that it is tiny or light.



The new technology available will be a great advantage especially

for

the micro pilot, or someone looking for features like this, as far

as

using two three or four ganged up for a giant scale ship however,(

as

stated by some, and of interest to others who might use this rx.) my
communications with Mr. Arroosh Elahi have been inconclusive as to

what

if any range degradation you might get putting two or more rxs in

one

plane. TOC pilots tried this a long time ago with large aerobatic

ships

with the result that there was often significant range reduction

with

using two rxs in one aircraft due to the antennas somehow

interfering

with each other. This both with Futaba and JR rxs. I offered to test

two

in a plane but have not heard back. If some one would kindly perform

a

simple range check with two rxs or more in a large aircraft, with
antennas running parallel inside the fuselage. or send me two to

test, I

will gladly pay for them ,and send them back for a refund after

testing

on the ground, not flying, The comment I got from Mr. Elahi was that
tests were "pretty good", but they had not the chance yet to go out

and

fly much until the weather improved...

If these little rxs indeed perform with unhindered range (ganged up)

as

compared to a single 10 channel PCM rx (original branded equipment)

then

it would be an interesting development for giant scale applications.



Synth tuning is not a feature that is critical other than

convenience,

and  for the average pilot, not so necessary. I travel with several
modules and xtals that serve my purposes very well, the real issue

is

all the other performance data. The stuff that keeps your plane in

the

air.



JD



-----Original Message-----
From: George Gillburg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 2:49 PM
To: John Derstine
Cc: 'Dave Register'; [email protected]; 'Gordy Stahl'; 'Barry

Kennedy'

Subject: RE: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #5375 - Shadow 3





Gee, that is almost as good as a JR 10x with a standard PCM rx

Yes, but is the JR standard PCM rx synthesized? Does it weigh 8

gms?

Somehow, I doubt it.



George Gillburg
Bakersfield, California


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