These cells are Very expensive from everything we have seen. The 80% charge in 
1 minute is very interesting, but need to know how long the other 20% takes and 
what the discharge curve looks like. Also will need special chargers for these 
cells. Cost and reliability are the key questions that will need to be 
answered. As with all technology, it will become more affordable in time and 
its uses more common. I would give it 2-4 years.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Rust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:17 PM
To: Soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] Re: new batteries


If Toshiba can produce these in quantity for reasonable prices - this 
will be a dramatic change in the way battery power is used. It would 
make electric vehicles much more practical - since 300+ mi Li-ion cars 
are already reasonable from the standpoint of range and weight - the 
last issue is charging speed. I could stand a 10-15m wait to fill up a car.

Or added as extra storage in your Prius+ hybrid - store power from your 
PV array, and get a few gals of gas a day for free (takes about 8kwh to 
get the equivalent of a gal of gas, you get an average of 4.5hrs of 
averaged peak power per day for a year here in CA - more in summer, less 
in winter, but it averages to that).

Of course price will be the biggest issue - they'll be more expensive 
than Li-ion/polymers at first.

You'd also think if they can be charged that fast, they could DISCHARGE 
that fast, too. Lets see, 150A into my little 3D aerobat with a 3 oz 
battery, thats 2hp...

-- 
Tom Rust
Nanochip Inc
48041 Fremont Blvd
Fremont, CA 94538
(510) 339-6263
(510) 339-9636 FAX
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