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So when people talk about a Supra (glider) it could mean a lot of different things. Different fuses and lengths, different airfoils, different wingspans, different wing construction (bagged or molded), etc...

Yeah, and other things too. Like different linkages (the Drela design uses RDS for ailerons and flaps, but I don't think Keisling and Barnes use them).

I can't comment much on the molded supra. But I am a big Drela fan and consider myself a builder of 2 of his designs (Allegro Lite and Bubble Dancer). If you go to the Charles River page, you will often see that Mark lists alternate ways to do things, so you can in fact build one of his designs several different ways. It is possible no two Bubble Dancers or Supras are alike. That is one of the things that I think make his designs popular. Guys get to chat about how they went about building his designs.

I think the one constant thing in the Supra is the airfoil (the Kennedy version, the Drela version, the wings Phil makes, and I think the Thermal Dancer all use the AG40 series foils) and that the Supra wing and model is specifically designed to handle F3J launches and that the model is designed for F3J flying. In reality, the Drela Supra is really quite similar to one of his earlier designs, the Aegea (remember the guys using the Barnes Aegea wings on Ava fuses last year, although the Barnes spar is a lot different than Mark's spar design). The spar was changed a bit on the Supra to be more twist resistant for high speed F3J launches (no sweep in the spar). The horizontal tail had the "sub rudder" removed to avoid a possible "rule issue" in F3J. The boom is supposed to be even stiffer. Things like that.

Confusing/fun, eh?

My winter project is a 2 meter Aegea wing to fit my Allegro Lite fuselage. And, if I have time a second fuselage.

Ryan


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