John,
Why should the organizers of the event make a special class for Woody Flyers
in this event? Woodcrafters limits the numbers of entries in their event
and will not allow non-woody flyers a special class. Adding a class even if
there are people like Ray willing to put up prize money still adds extra
work for the organizers in score keeping, checking the models for compliance
to the woody rules and such to pull it off. Not every event is set up to
accommodate every flyer.
As for your earlier comments about guys that fly composite planes not being
scratch builders, I would wager that there are more serious competition
pilots that build their own models from scratch than competition woody
flyers that scratch build their own planes. Personally I do not count
buying a woody kit and building it, as building from scratch, building yes,
building from scratch no. Look at the number of people that have built
Harley's Genies and many other designs he has given us. Most of the early
Genies were built from the ground up. Recently there have been a few guys
offering partial kits for these planes. There are several of the top
competitors in the DLG arena that scratch build their own designs.
I will admit, there has been a major shift away from building even from kits
in the last several years but there are still guys out there that do. Just
because a guy is flying a nice pretty composite model does not mean it was
not built from scratch or that he does not know how to build.
I truly respect any and all modelers that design and build there models from
scratch whether it be all wood, or all composite. Both methods take tons of
craftsmanship to produce a nice end result.
Okay, that has been my two cents worth.
See Ya,
Pat McCleave
Wichita, KS
Ps, John and Ray, both of your offers are quite generous, but maybe at the
wrong event.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RCSE" <[email protected]>; "rdwoebke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:53 PM
Subject: RE: [RCSE] LSF US Soaring Masters sponsored by Horizon Hobby and JR
Radio
Ryan,
I would love to see your Paragon, Allegro Lite and many other wood wing
planes flying at this contest. So much so, that I will match Ray's
sponsorship offer of "$100.00, $75.00 and $50.00 for Cash awards to first
thru third place in a woody class". That will make it real interesting for
the wood wing flyers. If the powers that be will allow it, I think that it
would entice the wood wing flyers out and give then a reason to fly. They
could fly knowing that they are contesting for wood wing prize not just
spending $75 for a few MOM launches. As you know Ryan, I am not a contest
kind of guy and would be more of a hazard than a benefit as a contestant.
Barring any conflicts I will be available for gofer, and worker bee
service.
That time of year we may not have the kids to run the carts and help set
up
so I can shag help and shag chutes like I did at the Nats (to relieve the
kids for lunch and when it was too hot) and at our local OVSS contest.
It's
a great way to watch a contest.
John
P.S. Maybe an up of the ante will convince you to "commit the time".
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
rdwoebke
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 9:58 PM
To: John
Subject: Re: [RCSE] LSF US Soaring Masters sponsored by Horizon Hobby and
JR
Radio
Actually, when Ray posted the suggestion about the woody "class" I
thought that was a pretty good idea. I almost replied saying I was
in, but then I realized that with my family it is very difficult to
commit to a 2 day contest, much less a 3 day one. But they sure are
fun though.
I think it would be great to see some guys flying woodies in the
mix. I remember 10 years ago when I started contesting that it
seemed every contest I went to (Cincy, Louisville) had at least one
guy flying a sailaire or an Oly. Even back then the guys on top
usualy had composite ships (but sometimes the guys flying the wood
bent wings would take a place). These days it is a lot more rare, at
least outside the club contests. Club contests almost always have a
variety of colorful wooden gliders.
So John, why don't you come on down from Ft. Wayne and join in the
fun at the Masters? I'd like to join in as well, but don't know that
I'll be able to commit the time away. But, I will be at at least a
few OVSS contests this year with my woody (Allegro Lite or Paragon).
Ryan
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