Some of you may have overheard activity in #sugar-meeting today discussing the upcoming beta freeze for SoaS, and the engineering capacity we have to work on things for the upcoming release (in May, since as a Fedora Spin we are tied to the Fedora release schedule).
The short version is that we'd like to try something pretty drastic - prior SoaS versions have included large numbers of Activities, which weren't always maintained and didn't always work, so we propose shipping a slimmed down version of SoaS with a small number of known-to-work Activities with active upstream maintainers (that we'll have the bandwidth to thoroughly test between now and May's release, and the bandwidth to relay deployment feedback back up to) and creating resources on how to find other excellent material at http://activities.sugarlabs.org. Here's a draft kickstart file of what a slimmed-down SoaS release might look like. It includes a few core Activities that will help you get, debug, and ask questions about more Activities (Browse, Log, and IRC), as well as a few well-tested Activities with active upstreams that we think tend to "demo well" for a variety of audiences and contexts (young/adult audience, large/small audience, dev/user/teacher audience, hands-on-lab/demo-on-projector audience, etc). http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/soas/repos/mainline/blobs/master/fedora-livecd-soas.ks And here's the image it produces - we haven't had time to download and test it yet, but are working on that right now, so you may beat us to finding out whether it works or not. ;-) http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/3/soas-3-20100319.iso In comparison, here's the old kickstart file with a large number of Activities, and the image it produced - if you try it out, you'll find that many of the Activities don't work, the quality of experience is inconsistent, and... well, we hope you'll see why we'd like to narrow the scope of this release's features to the amount of work we can comfortably maintain. http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/spin-kickstarts?p=spin-kickstarts.git;a=blob;f=fedora-livecd-soas.ks http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/soas/soas-i386-20100318.17.iso The rationale behind this is as follows: 1. Our ultimate goal is to produce a rock-solid deployment image with a wide variety of many Activities with active upstream maintainers, plus resources to engage users with those upstream communities and with communities of other learners. This was clarified in the earlier Sugar on a Stick Mission Statement: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2009-September/008322.html 2. Since we don't currently have the resources to do this, we think a good intermediate step is to produce a rock-solid deployment image with a SMALL variety of many Activities with active upstream maintainers, plus resources to engage users with those upstream communities and with communities of other learners. This sets the bar for both the quality of the Activity and maintenance, and the level of interaction that Activity upstreams can expect from users. 3. Saving a good number of known-to-be-awesome Activities for http://activities.sugarlabs.org and creating (kid-tested and teacher-tested) resources on how to get stuff from ASLO sets a dynamic of experimentation, trying-stuff-out, and user community engagement that we want to see. We don't know if this is a good idea or not. We think so, and we don't have much time to decide as Beta Freeze is this upcoming Tuesday, March 23. Feedback? Questions? Comments? Firestorm? We'll be tinkering further on this over the weekend - we can do another kickstart on Saturday, Sunday, and Monday, so we have 3 drafts left to figure this out with. Please join us (sdziallas & mchua on #sugar) and ask questions if you have any, or join in and help if you have ideas on how to improve this. Thanks! --Mel and Sebastian PS: We're going to ask more specific questions on the marketing and activities lists about this in a moment, for those of you following those sections of SL as well - and send a general iaep notification that these conversation threads are going on. One second... _______________________________________________ SoaS mailing list [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
