Thanks Sean. People sometimes forget that all this is written by volunteers in their spare time. E.g., I made the image-writer-mac.py script. Is it what a regular Mac user would want to use? Of course not. It does not have a graphical interface, and cannot be used from the Finder. But it's a lot easier and safer than having to manually figure out the necessary commands. I could program a graphical interface too, yes, but I don't really have time. I need to work to feed my family too. And the little spare time that's left I spend on Etoys. Because that requires some rather specific skills, whereas writing say an AppleScript GUI to copy SoaS could basically be done by *any* developer on a Mac.
So here's a plan: find more Mac developers, tell them your problems ;) - Bert - On 09.04.2010, at 09:44, Sean DALY wrote: > > These are all valid comments, but keep in mind the Sugar on a Stick > team is quite small and needs help. Anyone who can help including with > teacher-friendly documentation is invited to join the SoaS list. > Thanks. > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas > > Sean > > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Yamandu Ploskonka <[email protected]> > wrote: >> "Me too" postings are discouraged in good lists, but I myself feel so in >> agreement by what Gregg is pointing out to that I cannot but say, hear >> hear! >> >> What we have is too complicated, thus error prone and unfriendly, thus not >> really *usable* >> >> For Sugar or anything to revolutionize education it has to be really, really >> easy to get going >> >> >> >> On 04/08/2010 06:16 PM, Gregg Ambrosi wrote: >> >> This is just my opinion, but if the process cannot be performed reasonably >> simply by a large number of folks, including teachers (we want their input >> into the product no?), then it is too complicated. We need to offer simpler >> ways for user to run Sugar. Yes, everyone will point to Sugar on a Stick, >> however: >> >> 1. the documented CD creation process for Macs is not simple (use the >> Terminal? Come now...) >> 2. if someone only has one computer, this means they have ONLY sugar or ONLY >> their main OS. How do you evaluate/work with Sugar and make notes, or >> document something (egads - don't say write it on paper). >> >> Simple, easy to use VMs seem to me the way to go. However, those that are >> referenced in the various places are certainly not just - copy and play. I >> am running both VM player and Parallels and I have not found a download yet >> that 'just works'. We have to remember that not everyone that wants to help >> out (or would be great to have help out) are highly technical. That is >> supposedly the point of Sugar no - you don't need any technical ability? >> >> Food for thought. >> >> g >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:09 PM, James Cameron <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 09:55:34AM -0700, Caryl Bigenho wrote: >>>> Thanks for the info. I'm glad I asked. Now that leads to another >>>> question. If I wanted to skip the redundant download and open the >>>> image-writer-mac file in Terminal from the larger download Tom G. >>>> posted (Sugar-Creation-Kit-ver05.iso) how would I do that? I have >>>> copies of that download both on my desktop and burned on a DVD. >>> >>> Skipping it might not be worth the effort, since it is only a few >>> kilobytes, and by downloading it again you'll get it placed in the >>> folder that the instructions expect ... the folder called Downloads. >>> >>> However, to answer your question ... you would copy it to your Downloads >>> directory, either by dragging it across between two Finder windows (one >>> opened on the DVD, one opened on Downloads), or by figuring out the >>> filesystem paths for each and typing a Terminal command similar to this: >>> >>> cp /Volumes/SugarDVD/image-writer-mac.py ~/Downloads/ >>> >>> (Since I don't have a copy of this DVD, and the method used to create it >>> is manual and not automatically scripted, I can't determine what the >>> filesystem path after the "cp" would be.) This command does the same as >>> dragging the file between two Finder windows, but is more exact and >>> reproducible. The end result should be that file image-writer-mac.py is >>> in the Downloads folder. _______________________________________________ SoaS mailing list [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
