Hi...
I have been advocating for SoaS to run on both Intel and PowerPC platforms all 
along.  I think Sugar Labs has done pretty well with getting it up and running 
on the Intel machines and should continue working in that direction.  At the 
same time, there are still a lot of the old PowerPC Macs floating around. They 
are well built and last a long time. It is pretty hard to convince a principal 
(or superintendent or school board) that they should buy new hardware if the 
old stuff is still working... especially in these lean times.
There are some folks in SoCal who are playing around with getting Sugar to run 
on the old Macs.  They were inspired when someone was given a set of the old 
Mac "clamshell" machines.  So far they haven't reported back whether they have 
had any success, but I know they are working on it.  Most of these are folks 
who met Sugar at the Southern California Linux Expo (SCaLE) in the last 2 
years. 
I'd like to remind all of you that SCaLE 9X will take place at the Los Angeles 
Airport Hilton Hotel on Feb 25-27, 2011.  It would be great if some of you from 
Sugar Labs could attend, and even present.  There are a lot of open-source 
advocates in the Southern California area, and this is the time and place to 
encourage them to volunteer some time with Sugar Labs.  Here is a link to the 
Call For Papers if you would like to do a presentation:
http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale9x/blog/scale-9x-call-papers

There will probably also be a OLPC/SugarLabs booth again. Volunteers to help 
there would be very welcome!
Caryl
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:34:55 +1200
From: paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz
To: soas@lists.sugarlabs.org; i...@lists.sugarlabs.org
Subject: Re: [SoaS] [IAEP]  [MARKETING] Get Sugar landing page

On 16 September 2010 09:00, Tabitha Roder <tabi...@tabitha.net.nz> wrote:

If we support VIrtualBox we

should probably also support VMWare, Hyper-V, KVM and Xen. Who's going

to do all that testing when we have barely the resources to do a

single image.



Peter


 I am a teacher of sorts and have been into loads of education institutes from 
pre school through to tertiary. Apple is everywhere so we have to solve this 
problem. 


Apple designs vertically integrated systems. If schools & teachers decide to 
adopt this philosophy, they take the risk that they can't use external stuff. I 
don't know if Sugar Labs have the capacity to remedy this. I think that Sugar 
Labs should focus on making quality software, and push responsibility for 
adoption downstream to distributions and companies/orgs that want to promote 
Sugar's adoption.


I'm sorry for my lack of sympathy, but I don't see Sugar running natively on a 
Mac platform as a priority for Sugar Labs. It's a priority, but we have many 
priorities and few resources.
 
I use Virtualbox and have a geek master to turn to for help when I need it. I 
have not heard of those other virtual machine things and all the teachers I 
know that have tried a virtual machine have done so with Virtualbox or 
something called bootcamp (which might not even be a virtual machine, who 
knows?) 

You're right there, Boot Camp[1] is not virtualisation. It is more like an 
installer to make things easier for people to install a second operating 
system. It assists people with repartitioning their hard drives and so forth.


I think that Boot Camp is a good route to investigate if someone has the 
energy. Perhaps some intrepid Mac users could adapt current tutorials[3] for 
Sugar.

Tim

[1] http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BootCamp
[2] 
http://www.helium.com/items/421906-how-to-install-linux-on-an-intel-mac-with-boot-camp


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