Are you going to use the same wifi also?
I wouldn't.
I would have a separate land DSL/CABLE for me and another one for the wifi for 'them'.
On 5/11/06, Don Tran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dude,All the local mom & pop cafe's I go to, it's wide open, e.g. broadcast no wep wpa, key or anything. The whole idea is it's value added or anciliarary to their main business. It brings in foot traffic and other business.So, what's your business model? a internet cafe?you have to ask, why would you want to hide or not broadcast?Do you want them to come to the counter and ask, so they buy something?Do you want to post the SSID on the wall?Once they know, it they can add the profile.But then anyone with freeware open source, like Kismit or Netstumbler can find the SSID and log on.Only one cafe I was at you had to go to the counter and ask them what the key was. But then the problem was when I was there, no one knew the key or forgot what it was. So all your users are hosed, until the key is found or reset.Even surrounding business can eventually find the key or get it from some one who knows it and the SSID. So what's the use, leave it wide open. Unless you rotate it or change the key every day/week/month or some schedule like that to restrict it.Again what is your purpose?
On 5/11/06, Victor Caballero <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:Here's a situation. What if you run a business where you have groups of people come in and they need internet access?What are the best practices to prevent unathorized use. Do you give clients a key or hide the SSID and then give it to them when they arrive?I've heard nightmares of having open access points with port sweeps and scans. What do you do?Thanks
From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Rick DobbsIt's definitely a grey area. I talked with a VP at Cox a little bit back about this. It's mostly unenforceable and you can easily claim ignorance if the system is open and being used by others. In the rare occassion that they enforce this, it has only been used on people who are using a significant amount of bandwidth over long periods of time. If you have their 10mbit package (I think that's it) and you're regularly pegging it out for most of the day, you're going to run in to a problem and they'll use that rule to enforce it.
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 1:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [SOCALWUG] Re: Network Your Backyard
Obviously, it's a workaround. If you're the type of person that's concerned about the letter of the law, then the bottom line would be not to do it. But at the same time, you could get away with it.
--Rick
On 5/11/06, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:I see that my ISP (Cox Cable) has this in my AUP:
The "redistribute" can be taken to mean open WiFi on my part, I would think. Interesting to note that I can't just offer it to anyone even though I pay for it...
- Resell or redistribute the Service to any third party via any means including but not limited to wireless technology.
It seems that the issue of keeping the bandwidth "un-redistributed" falls to the consumer and might not be that easy or desireable to enforce.
You share your Internet connection to those places and don't charge? I don't think my Cox would allow that, do you?
On 5/11/06, Frank Keeney <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Read your ISP's AUP, mine allows sharing as long as I don't charge a fee.
I share my DSL with two apartments on a mountain 5 miles away and another
apartment 10 miles away.
Frank Keeney
Pasadena Networks, LLC
Antennas, Cables and Equipment:
http://www.wlanparts.com
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On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [SOCALWUG] Re: Network Your Backyard
If I decide to run an "open WiFi port" on my home LAN and let anyone
access my connection to the Internet, isn't that theft in the eyes of my
ISP?
So don't use a solar-powered Wi-Fi extender unless you take steps to
make it PRIVATE!?
(another angle for at least using WEP if not MAC filtering...)
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