----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim McGrath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [SOCALWUG] Re: Verizon terminating EVDO accounts for excessive usage
> Mike, > I agree with you on all points except on the part about "a lot of choices". > > Because of the cost barrier to enter the market, Verizon, Sprint, Tmobile, > Alltel & Cingular are "IT" in terms of National US Wireless providers that > own their own network. The MVNO's such as Ampd, Disney Mobile, Fred's Hip > New Wireless MVNO, etc. have sprouted up based on "high touch" customer > service needs & wants and unique "INFO-tainment" & personalization options, > but they are still limited to what they can negotiate with the "Big 5" in > the network backbone. > > In my view, the "upstart carrier" with an all-you-can-eat offering will be > someone who can use some new technology like WiMax or plain old WiFi and use > it to link together a nationwide data network of Access Point connected by > fiberoptic lines running over the Electric Power lines or along Railroad > tracks and They could take the lead in this tiny, but growing market. > > Tim McG > Telecom Industry Consultant > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Outmesguine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:27 PM > Subject: [SOCALWUG] Re: Verizon terminating EVDO accounts for excessive > usage > > > > > > Well, you order "unlimited" bandwidth. That shouldn't mean "unlimited > unless > > it's over 10 GB". If their threshold is 10GB then the plan should be that. > > > > The market will win on this one. Cable companies killed themselves early > in > > the bandwidth race by thwarting popular usage behavior. My gamer friends > > liked DSL because they could host game servers and multiple computers from > > one connection. Draconian terms of service agreements (as exhibited by > cable > > companies in the early days) that prohibit normal behavior will suffer > from > > market forces. > > > > If a carrier blocks users from surfing the sites they use when connected > by > > other means, like at home, then they will jump ship and find a carrier > that > > lets them surf how they want. > > > > Verizon, Sprint, Tmobile, Alltel, Cingular, Ampd, Disney Mobile, Fred's > Hip > > New Wireless MVNO, etc. We have a lot of choices. > > > > Sprint and Verizon are at the head of the line for 3G data right now. That > > doesn't mean some upstart carrier will say all-you-can-eat means > > all-you-can-eat and take the lead in this tiny, but growing market. > > > > Patiently awaiting a letter, > > Mike > > > > PS: I believe we are seeing similar trends and corproate behavior patterns > > to those when dialup first started entering the home. Back around 1995, > AT&T > > Internet got huge flack for limiting the number of minutes you can stay > > connected with their monthly unlimited dialup program - People jumped ship > > to places like Earthlink, who didn't limit anything or care how long you > > were connected. > > > > > > -- > > Mike Outmesguine > > President, TransStellar, Inc. http://www.TransStellar.com > > Author, Wi-Fi Toys http://www.wifi-toys.com > > Chairman, Southern California Wireless Users Group http://www.socalwug.org > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Tollfree: (866)778-TECH > > Direct: +1-818-889-9445 x102 > > Fax: +1-818-337-7420 > > AOL-IM: SOCALWUG > > Yahoo-IM: mikeoutmesguine > > VOIP-Skype: mikeoutmesguine > > Say: /OUT-mess-geen/ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf > > Of Stan Slonkosky > > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:43 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [SOCALWUG] Verizon terminating EVDO accounts for excessive usage > > > > > > A number of Verizon users have recently received a letter, which states, > in > > part: > > > > "As you know, the terms and conditions that govern your NationalAccess > > and/or BroadbandAccess account, which were provided to you at the time of > > service activation and which are posted on VerizonWireless.com, only > permit > > Internet browsing, email, and intranet access. All other activities, such > as > > streaming and/or donwloading movies and video, are expressly prohibited by > > the terms and conditions. A copy of the terms and conditions is enclosed. > > > > "We recently reviewed your Verizon Wireless NationalAccess and/or > Broadband > > Access account and found that your usage over the past 30 days exceeded 10 > > Gigabytes. Your usage was more than 40 times that of a typical user. This > > level of usage is so extraordinarily high that it could only have been > > attained by activites, such as streaming and/or downloading movies and > > video, prohibited by the terms and conditions. > > Based on these facts, your extraordinarily high levels of usage > conclusively > > demonstrate a violation of the terms and conditions, and your account will > > be terminated on 5/30/2006." > > > > Sever users at http://www.evdoforums.com/about2366-0-asc-15.html > > reported that. Others have reported that their termination date is to be > > June 5. > > > > Also see the article "Use SlingBox, Get Your EVDO Terminated" at > > > http://www.evdoinfo.com/Tips/PC_5220/Use_SlingBox%2C_Get_Your_EVDO_Terminate > > d_20060601753 > > and the related item http://www.evdoforums.com/about2548.html . So far > there > > are numerous reports of Verizon getting their accounts terminated but only > > one from a Sprint user getting his account terminated. > > > > -- > > Stan Slonkosky > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SOCALWUG" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/SOCALWUG SOCALWUG website: http://www.socalwug.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
