----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim McGrath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [SOCALWUG] Re: Verizon terminating EVDO accounts for excessive
usage


> Mike,
> I agree with you on all points except on the part about "a lot of
choices".
>
> Because of the cost barrier to enter the market, Verizon, Sprint, Tmobile,
> Alltel & Cingular are "IT" in terms of National US Wireless providers that
> own their own network. The MVNO's such as Ampd, Disney Mobile, Fred's Hip
> New Wireless MVNO, etc.  have sprouted up based on "high touch" customer
> service needs & wants and unique "INFO-tainment" & personalization
options,
> but they are still limited to what they can negotiate with the "Big 5" in
> the network backbone.
>
> In my view, the "upstart carrier" with an all-you-can-eat offering will be
> someone who can use some new technology like WiMax or plain old WiFi and
use
> it to link together a nationwide data network of Access Point connected by
> fiberoptic lines running over the Electric Power lines or along Railroad
> tracks and They could take the lead in this tiny, but growing market.
>
> Tim McG
> Telecom Industry Consultant
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Outmesguine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:27 PM
> Subject: [SOCALWUG] Re: Verizon terminating EVDO accounts for excessive
> usage
>
>
> >
> > Well, you order "unlimited" bandwidth. That shouldn't mean "unlimited
> unless
> > it's over 10 GB". If their threshold is 10GB then the plan should be
that.
> >
> > The market will win on this one. Cable companies killed themselves early
> in
> > the bandwidth race by thwarting popular usage behavior. My gamer friends
> > liked DSL because they could host game servers and multiple computers
from
> > one connection. Draconian terms of service agreements (as exhibited by
> cable
> > companies in the early days) that prohibit normal behavior will suffer
> from
> > market forces.
> >
> > If a carrier blocks users from surfing the sites they use when connected
> by
> > other means, like at home, then they will jump ship and find a carrier
> that
> > lets them surf how they want.
> >
> > Verizon, Sprint, Tmobile, Alltel, Cingular, Ampd, Disney Mobile, Fred's
> Hip
> > New Wireless MVNO, etc. We have a lot of choices.
> >
> > Sprint and Verizon are at the head of the line for 3G data right now.
That
> > doesn't mean some upstart carrier will say all-you-can-eat means
> > all-you-can-eat and take the lead in this tiny, but growing market.
> >
> > Patiently awaiting a letter,
> > Mike
> >
> > PS: I believe we are seeing similar trends and corproate behavior
patterns
> > to those when dialup first started entering the home. Back around 1995,
> AT&T
> > Internet got huge flack for limiting the number of minutes you can stay
> > connected with their monthly unlimited dialup program - People jumped
ship
> > to places like Earthlink, who didn't limit anything or care how long you
> > were connected.
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Mike Outmesguine
> > President, TransStellar, Inc. http://www.TransStellar.com
> > Author, Wi-Fi Toys http://www.wifi-toys.com
> > Chairman, Southern California Wireless Users Group
http://www.socalwug.org
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Tollfree: (866)778-TECH
> > Direct: +1-818-889-9445 x102
> > Fax: +1-818-337-7420
> > AOL-IM: SOCALWUG
> > Yahoo-IM: mikeoutmesguine
> > VOIP-Skype: mikeoutmesguine
> > Say: /OUT-mess-geen/
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
> > Of Stan Slonkosky
> > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:43 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [SOCALWUG] Verizon terminating EVDO accounts for excessive
usage
> >
> >
> > A number of Verizon users have recently received a letter, which states,
> in
> > part:
> >
> > "As you know, the terms and conditions that govern your NationalAccess
> > and/or BroadbandAccess account, which were provided to you at the time
of
> > service activation and which are posted on VerizonWireless.com, only
> permit
> > Internet browsing, email, and intranet access. All other activities,
such
> as
> > streaming and/or donwloading movies and video, are expressly prohibited
by
> > the terms and conditions. A copy of the terms and conditions is
enclosed.
> >
> > "We recently reviewed your Verizon Wireless NationalAccess and/or
> Broadband
> > Access account and found that your usage over the past 30 days exceeded
10
> > Gigabytes. Your usage was more than 40 times that of a typical user.
This
> > level of usage is so extraordinarily high that it could only have been
> > attained by activites, such as streaming and/or downloading movies and
> > video, prohibited by the terms and conditions.
> > Based on these facts, your extraordinarily high levels of usage
> conclusively
> > demonstrate a violation of the terms and conditions, and your account
will
> > be terminated on 5/30/2006."
> >
> > Sever users at http://www.evdoforums.com/about2366-0-asc-15.html
> > reported that. Others have reported that their termination date is to be
> > June 5.
> >
> > Also see the article "Use SlingBox, Get Your EVDO Terminated" at
> >
>
http://www.evdoinfo.com/Tips/PC_5220/Use_SlingBox%2C_Get_Your_EVDO_Terminate
> > d_20060601753
> > and the related item http://www.evdoforums.com/about2548.html . So far
> there
> > are numerous reports of Verizon getting their accounts terminated but
only
> > one from a Sprint user getting his account terminated.
> >
> > --
> > Stan Slonkosky
> >
> >
> >


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