Frank,

You really are fortunate with your broadband choices. Out here in the 
hills of Chatsworth, AT&T doesn't even offer DSL yet. Cable doesn't 
offer broadband either. Wireless ISPs are our only option.

jack


Frank Keeney wrote:
> I was originally called Altrio.
>  
> I believe it now:
> http://www.championbroadband.com
>  
> Look for the short dark green boxes between the sidewalk and the 
> street throughout (every 2 blocks or so) the Pasadena area. Perhaps 
> Altadena as well.
>  
>  
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* [email protected]
>     [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Rod Morison
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:27 PM
>     *To:* [email protected]
>     *Subject:* [SOCALWUG] Re: Public wifi that works
>
>     Two telcos in Pasadena? What's the other one? And, does that go
>     for Altadena, too?
>
>     Frank Keeney wrote:
>>      
>>     This is a great idea! There have been many times I've wanted this 
>> service in
>>     a rest area. Thanks for the photo.
>>
>>     I believe that one of the biggest problems with muni WiFi is a lack of
>>     understanding the customer. Blanketing a city with WiFi can be a good 
>> idea.
>>     But why do it unless there is a compelling case for it? Will anyone use 
>> it?
>>     Will it justify the cost? Or will it be just another way to spend lots of
>>     taxpayer money? I like the idea of it's use for Public Service, Police,
>>     Fire, etc (but would it be better just to put EVDO in the vehicles).
>>
>>     Where I live, here in Pasadena, I have cheap DSL at home, EVDO on the 
>> move.
>>     Most homes have access to two telcos (yes, two local telcos on our 
>> telephone
>>     poles!) and a cable company. So there are at least 3 different physical
>>     methods for anyone here to get inexpensive Internet. Why should we have 
>> muni
>>     WiFi? With all the "noise" on the crowded 2.4GHz spectrum (especially in 
>> the
>>     multi-floor business areas of town), I doubt that the performance would 
>> be
>>     satisfactory at much distance. BTW, I have driven around town in the
>>     retail/business areas with a spectrum analyzer and it's very noisy!
>>
>>     I really like volunteer activities like http://www.socalfreenet.org, get
>>     people involved with their community.
>>
>>     My preference is to let the entrepreneurs build these networks (or
>>     volunteers), they'll spend a great amount of energy understanding their
>>     customer.
>>
>>     Building smaller city wireless networks seems to make sense to me. 
>> Wireless,
>>     in parks, rest areas, community centers and other places that foster
>>     community.
>>
>>     Frank Keeney
>>     Blog: http://www.unwiredadventures.com
>>     Work: http://www.wlanparts.com 
>>     Photos: http://snurl.com/unwirephotos
>>
>>
>>       
>>>     -----Original Message-----
>>>     From: [email protected] 
>>>     [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Close
>>>     Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:05 PM
>>>     To: [email protected]
>>>     Subject: [SOCALWUG] Public wifi that works
>>>
>>>     I'm traveling at the moment and took this picture today along I-80 in
>>>     Iowa. I used the service and was immediately given 
>>>     up-to-the-moment road
>>>     status based on my location. The Internet connection also 
>>>     worked great.
>>>     There was no charge or request for identification.
>>>         
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>       
>
>
>     >

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